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Post by indianalindsay on Jul 6, 2015 10:51:55 GMT 1
If I had to put a bet on it, I'd bet that: Alexis Tsipras is used to getting his own way, and does not have much experience of failing. He is a political operator who uses a combination of charm, guile and bullying to get what he wants. He has tried to hold the other EU leaders to ransom knowing how much they love the "EU project" (as they call it) and how much they don't want it to start to disintegrating on their watch. However, he forgot that the other EU leaders are all successful politicians too. They also are used to getting their own way and they each learned how to play dirty as they made their own ways up the greasy pole in their own countries. When Tsipras tried to play politics with them, they reverted to type and, probably for the first time ever in the history of the EU , the various country leaders and finance ministers properly united with each other in a common goal. Unfortunately, for Tsipras their common goal is seeing to it that Tsipras is banished. Either way will suffice: The Greeks can leave and take him with them or they can dump him and come back to the fold. If I am right, then they have already won because Tsipras is now a dead man walking, politically speaking. So the Greeks voted "N0", are they mad. It will be interesting how the EU and IMF respond
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Post by Carol on Jul 6, 2015 14:28:51 GMT 1
The Greeks being interviewed on TV who are saying that the people have spoken remind me a little of Croats (again).
You have to ask why the Greek people think that the rest of the EU would do whatever they want just because they have collectively said it? Why their democratic voice is the only one that is relevant? Then I remember how people in Croatia seemed to think that there are two places in the world viz Croatia and not Croatia. Moreover, everyone aspires to be in Croatia (and Croats need to be wary in case they steal their country from them etc).
Could it be that Greeks think the same way i.e. the rest of the EU countries merely exist to pay homage to Greece? So, it doesn't even cross their minds that people in other countries may not want to give Greeks their hard-earned money when the Greeks can't even be bothered trying to live within their means?
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