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Post by gmh on Dec 10, 2007 11:43:55 GMT 1
Fair dinkum cobber, strewth! Where's me billabong? Actually yes you do, but it is quite mild. Unlike meself gawd blimey, leevit aaaht! Do me a fayva, on me 'ed son.... yor avin a larf mate. We've progressed to speaking kajcroglish at home now, using phrases like... Ne mogu believe it! - or - u koliko sati is supper? - or even - buš ti hungry? I don't think anyone understands either of us now. Oh well! That's how my stepdaughter and I used to speak to each other. Now she pretty much uses all english words or says the whole thing in Croatian. I quite like the mix up lingo mate. Your accents not as bad as you write it Ribo. At least you don't use 'nowt'.
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Post by Slatkica on Dec 10, 2007 16:20:13 GMT 1
A Northerner pronouncing words clearly......? Unheard of. ;D I think you'll find that lily-livered Southern pansies are the ones who don't speak clearly! The word bath is a prime example of this!! Hahahaha yeh right, You Northern monkeys make no sense! Why aye pet?! What you mean we should pronounce it 'BAFF'?!
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Post by Slatkica on Dec 10, 2007 16:25:49 GMT 1
Fair dinkum cobber, strewth! Where's me billabong? Actually yes you do, but it is quite mild. Unlike meself gawd blimey, leevit aaaht! Do me a fayva, on me 'ed son.... yor avin a larf mate. We've progressed to speaking kajcroglish at home now, using phrases like... Ne mogu believe it! - or - u koliko sati is supper? - or even - buš ti hungry? I don't think anyone understands either of us now. Oh well! Many of my relatives do this when trying to speak English. They replace what English words they don't know with Croatian, or change the endings of words to make them sound more Croatian.
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Post by pocketvenus on Dec 10, 2007 16:50:44 GMT 1
What is wrong with 'nowt'?! A good Northern word, absolutely nowt wrong with it!!! ;D
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 10, 2007 19:32:42 GMT 1
Aye lad (lass?), arm wi ee there thou nawse. Appen as like that thee folk oop north speak raht gredly ... ower kid.
Whereas, we southern pansies extol eloquence if not verbocity whilst mid articulation. It is encumbent upon one to remain cogniscent with the idiosynchracies of our aural idiom... innit?
Back to GMH's Croatian endings, I also like to hear them. Examples I can recall "is Dragec homa?" or "are you going sa carom?"
Priceless.
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Post by Slatkica on Dec 10, 2007 22:58:58 GMT 1
Aye lad (lass?), arm wi ee there thou nawse. Appen as like that thee folk oop north speak raht gredly ... ower kid. Whereas, we southern pansies extol eloquence if not verbocity whilst mid articulation. It is encumbent upon one to remain cogniscent with the idiosynchracies of our aural idiom... innit? Back to GMH's Croatian endings, I also like to hear them. Examples I can recall "is Dragec homa?" or "are you going sa carom?" Priceless. A funny one I've heard is "come going?" Which my grandma likes to think is good English for gdje ides? "Jel ides o - out?" "Jel hungry "hoces eat ovo?" * O and not forgetting "daj mi kiss."
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Post by happy on Dec 11, 2007 0:14:42 GMT 1
Unnecessary personal insults (a Croatian predisposition IMHO) Interesting observation!
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Post by enigma on Dec 11, 2007 23:24:41 GMT 1
This goes for Slatkica and Ribariæ. Your examples of Croglish (or even Kajcroglish ) are so sweet. However, Ribariæ , if you happen to talk to someone from Dalmatia, don't try to say something like ''buš hungry '' or ''bum help you'', they won't /wouldn't understand . I have to admit that a lot of young Cro native speakers like to use an English word instead of Croatian,i.e. ''Danas sam u badu'' - meaning '' I'm in a bad mood today'', ''tako sam happy'', (I'm so happy''), not to mention computer language , so English ''to click'' becomes '' kliknuti'', ''to save'' becomes ''sejvati'' (most Cro verbs have ending -ti). Once they have become part of the language they start to function the same way like all the other Cro verbs, with all the endings . A fine example of a peaceful and useful language co-exsistence. Better than mutual insults and fighting who's more beautiful or more clever (or cleverer, I'm not sure which is more correct) Your opinion?
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Post by valiant on Dec 17, 2007 0:32:02 GMT 1
antoni(j)a? Mari(j)a) Mari(j)u?
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 17, 2007 12:06:20 GMT 1
My observations about personal insults are just that, observations. It seems to me that discussions more often include irrelevant and slightly personal attacks than I am accustomed to when I lived in the UK or the US.
A classic example would be....
Why is it necessary to shoot down my observation with a statement like this? It's irrelevant, slightly insulting (in that it labels me as a British stereotype) and makes my original point quite well. When foreign residents in London (there are one or two) tell me of their observations and comparisons with life in their homeland, I accept they have a unique perspective and don't try to justify myself or prove them wrong. They have observations from the comparisons they make, so do I.
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Post by valiant on Dec 17, 2007 22:37:07 GMT 1
marijana!!! ...am i refering to a male or female??? have a guess. petra??? man or woman?? i recently heard a guy refering to the cancel key as "kenkl" theyve even startied to call events..."hepening"!!!! as in (hapenning) =some sort of event taking place. ...hepening...hahahha- hope it doesnt catch on. dalmatians really freak me out...im a dalmatian and i have my observations...in the 10 years ive been living here..ive noticed dalmatians really intentionally forcing some sort of regional dialect to the extent that its ridicuolus...they even refer to Vjeverica(squirell) as Viverica. Pjena...Pina? i mean what the f??? isnt that going overboard??? and dont get caught saying that your going for a swim in the "voda" ..cos dalmatians believe it to be no more and no less than "more" ...so dont get a mouthfull of "more" when you go swimming. you wouldnt want a dalmatian to think that you think some inland river is as trendy as the "more" . and another cool cro word for cool..is "guba" !!! hahahha. cool. the usage of the term"nonsens" is a real freak out too. dalmatians have gone overboard with the "petrusimol" it used to be called "persin" but now they all call it "petrusimol" cos they are special dalmatians. and these days they wont admit to liking pork...cos "thats slavonski" ...but where the hell does prsut come from then?? slavonia??? ive seen "svinjokolje" taking place in dalmatia!!! yeah its huge in the dalmatian zagora...ive seen pigs get slaughtered in large numbers and have corn cobs stuck in the stab wounds so that the blood doesnt all gush out(thats in dalmatia)!! and these days they stay away from sourcream cos its more of as continental and slavonski way of cooking!!!! what has tourism done to the dalmatians??? theyve turned in on themselves and have nothing to offer anymore but smart a... comments. The word "Caffe" in croatia is the only way its spelled ...with 2 Fs. is that a normal thing??? im just wondering. who else in the world spells it with 2 Fs? weird for the cro language in which there is a total absence of double letters in words.
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 18, 2007 12:21:48 GMT 1
It's not an insult, it's my view resulting from my experience. It's the truth as I see it. If you are insulted then look to yourself as to why you feel that way.
It remains entirely irrelevant. Your argument with Carol has nothing to do with me. She and I may have been brought up in the same country but so what? Do you think there is a secret society of Brits all huddled together, mumbling to each other and plotting and scheming?
There you go again, "British" like it was some kind of gang. I note you agree with this. You can't argue both sides and be right in both cases.
You can either accept peoples' views or reject them, that's your choice but you can't expect respect for your point of view if you just throw up irrelevant counters. I have other observations which may or may not have value, I am now going to keep them to myself. Good job Owl.
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Post by Carol on Dec 18, 2007 15:45:10 GMT 1
I'm not sure how I feel with Ribaric going out of his way to make sure no one puts him in the same group as me, but c'est la vie i guess!
Owl - I can't be bothered to read the whole thread again, but from memeory what i said was that I thought you had made an ignorant and stupid statement on a theme of Cro children are better than british ones. As a parent to british children livin in croatia, you obviously hit a nerve. I don't want my children made second class thanks to that sort fo comment being allowed to ride. In the end it turned out that you weren't really talkign about children at all, only teenagers in britain with ASBOs. I don't know anythign about how unruly cro teenagers can be, so i've no comment.
However you should be aware that there is a difference between saying someone has said or done something stupid versus they are stupid etc.
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 18, 2007 19:20:31 GMT 1
I'd be honoured to be grouped with you Carol. Just to labour the point though, when Owl says "in your honest opinion you think that all Croats have predisposition for personal insults" He/she's got it wrong again. I didn't say all Croats. It does nicely demonstrate how not to let facts get in the way of the truth. Anyway, that's enough of that. Back to language......
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Post by valiant on Dec 18, 2007 19:20:33 GMT 1
im pretty sure that italians spell cafe with one F. anf have an accent on the F.
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