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Post by mickanddeb09 on Apr 22, 2009 9:34:19 GMT 1
How curious! katef comes in and starts a thread under the guise of a "seemingly concerned tourist" (Is Croatia safe to visit?). He is answered "Yes"and given, to the best of the collective minds on here, the information he seemed to be asking for. Then he pulls out all his anti-croatia, dubious ramblings. Why ask if you already have the opinion and mind-set you obviously have? You gave yourself away Katef. Then you try again with "Is Dubrovnik becoming a city of killers?" Give us a break mate, no-one is that gullible. Who is the one "sprouting propoganda"? Well done Anna!
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Post by mambo on Apr 22, 2009 10:00:08 GMT 1
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but even 2 murders per year is not a lot and it doesn't worry me at all.
As comparison the following figure.
Curacao, a small island in the Caribbean, with roughly 120,000 inhabitants made it up to 70 murders in one year. In other words, Croatia still has a long way to go before it becomes dangerous. In fact, the low crime rate could be used as an excellent marketing tool.
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Post by galant on Apr 22, 2009 10:16:21 GMT 1
this is from the JAVNO website
DUBROVNIK, CROATIA - The 22 year old student from Dubrovnik H.S. claims that he was attacked by the police officers Dragan Palmeta and Ivica Rudinovic from the photo-robot in the Britt Lapthorne case, as well as Matko Klaric, writes the Croatian newspaper Slobodna Dalmacija.
In November 2008, N.S. filed reports with the County State Attorney’s Office against the police officers Dragan Palmeta, Ivica Rudinovic, Matko Klaric for “non-conscious work in the service”.
Student winks to police officer, so they beat him
H.S. went to the disco club “Factory” with his friend M.B. When they were heading home, the 22 year old accidently caught a rear view mirror of a taxi with his hand, but did not damage it. The taxi driver got out of the car and slapped him, and then a conflict with pushing broke out. Soon the police officers arrived and then the incident occurred.
“The angry taxi driver slapped me, after which there was pushing, and the quick arrival of the police officers. After I jokingly winked at one of them, they punched me in the head five-six times whilst I was sitting on the pavement” said H.S. He said that his only complaint to the police officers was by saying that it would be better for them to catch real criminals.
Criminal report against police officers dismissed
After the police officers hit him, they took him to the hospital, where they determined that he had a concussion and scratches, as well as a contusion of the face and ears, then took him to the police station for processing. After 9am he was taken before the judge for offences Dubravka Djivanovic, who after giving his testimony, was released to freedom.
The Dubrovnik student was later questioned by the internal control of the Dubrovnik police department. The County State Attorney’s Office rejected the report that was filed by H.S. against the three police officers who beat him, and for them the case is closed, reports Slobodna Dalmacija.
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Post by galant on Apr 22, 2009 10:19:06 GMT 1
that taxi driver needs to be charged for the slapping. and those coppers definitely consider themsleves above the law.
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Post by gmh on Apr 22, 2009 10:28:50 GMT 1
That student is lucky his case was closed so quickly. I was beaten by the police and then they charged me. 3 years later, the case is still on going.
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Post by boris on Apr 22, 2009 10:35:21 GMT 1
Anna, get a grip and deal with this absurd abuse of the Forum. You are far too lenient but that's just my opinion. Yes, I support this 100%!
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Post by galant on Apr 22, 2009 10:35:52 GMT 1
GMH that sounds like a case that Strasbourg would love to hear about, coming from Croatia, an Aussie beaten by Croatian "police". (i think i remember you writing that this happened to you when you were doing a performance) cros are funny like that, they totaly judge their respect towards someone by their appearance...i have crossd the border many times in a car and they (the cops)are ok, once i went over by bike, they treated me like an insect. dress up in a suit and go to a cafe, waiters will be twice as nice to you, it is amazing. in comparison, i was once in a fantastic bar on the 26th floor of the Rialto in Melbourne, the waitresses, dressed something like airline hostesses were so friendly, i felt so accepted and they gave me this warm fuzzy feeling hhaha, just beautiful women, leaning down to look at you in the eye with a smile, and ask how they can help...and i was weariing shorts and a shirt. no tie, nothing special. fantastic. and in the background was a woman playing on a huge white grand piano...it was great. then theres the nightime view from up there of the city. then i went to the toilet, the whole wall of the toilet is glass...sou you are standing there pissing and have this fantastic view, its amazing.
it would be funny if cro coppers abuse bill gates one day, cos hes on holiday, looks sort of nerdy and dressed like one of the beach boys .
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Post by boris on Apr 22, 2009 10:43:41 GMT 1
That student is lucky his case was closed so quickly. I was beaten by the police and then they charged me. 3 years later, the case is still on going. I hope you get justice in your case, and you deserve it. But isn't it also a problem in many other countries: in Brazil if you are poor and look suspicious they will kill, in USA in a lot of cases, they shoot first and ask questions later, in London during the latest G20 conference over 200 people were assaulted by police etc.
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Post by galant on Apr 22, 2009 10:51:21 GMT 1
yeah boris, it is true. but im writing about whats general acceptable behaviour norms. you alwys have people who consider themsleves above the law, or are abusive etc... australia is a very friendly country, very very friendly... but go out ion a saturday night, and accidentlay bump into the wrong person in a disco and croatia would seem like heaven. actually i know some aussie cros who would have many thugs in croatia peeing their panties. australia is a friendly country but they have this violent subculture, which is totaly seperated from the norm. dubrovnik really isnt a violent place. but the thing that ruins is is the cop corruption, and how they are ignoring info about brit lapthorne, and how the entire country is attacking australia cos her parents are pushing croat police into working, cos they really do seem to be hiding something.
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Post by gmh on Apr 22, 2009 12:55:38 GMT 1
That student is lucky his case was closed so quickly. I was beaten by the police and then they charged me. 3 years later, the case is still on going. I hope you get justice in your case, and you deserve it. But isn't it also a problem in many other countries: in Brazil if you are poor and look suspicious they will kill, in USA in a lot of cases, they shoot first and ask questions later, in London during the latest G20 conference over 200 people were assaulted by police etc. I'm not saying it doesn't happen in other places, just pointing out how slow the justice system is here, especially seeing as it's a case that never should have gone to court in the first place. No Galant, it didn't happen during a show. Personally I think Croatia is the safest country of the 23 or so that I've been to.
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Post by boris on Apr 22, 2009 14:00:37 GMT 1
GMH, you are absolutely right, the slowness of the justice system is appalling. I would sack half of the judges in Croatia.
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Post by mambo on Apr 22, 2009 15:53:56 GMT 1
Last summer in Pag some drunk kids were walking back from Zrce to Novalja. A police car passed by and apparently the kids shouted something. Next thing I saw was an emergency stop of the police car, it backed up, three policemen got out of the car, beat the living daylights out of these 2 kids, left them lying on the street, got in their car and drove on.
Whatever the kids shouted, this kind of police behavior is basically out of control and should not be tolerated. But we all know it happens all over Croatia, apparently a left over from days gone by.
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Post by capio on Apr 22, 2009 15:55:41 GMT 1
GMH, you are absolutely right, the slowness of the justice system is appalling. I would sack half of the judges in Croatia. Or pay them more, so they're not so open to bribes. The courts in Croatia are so crooked it is disgusting. Nearly all Judges have a price. Nearly all cases can be delayed or sped up for a price. My ex employer bribed a judged in the Sibenik region so he could get a licence for a hotel.
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Post by Anna on Apr 22, 2009 15:57:34 GMT 1
"katef" has now been banned.
Sorry if you think I'm too lenient.
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Post by galant on Apr 22, 2009 20:07:02 GMT 1
cops really shouldnt behave like that. totaly pathetic abuse of power. and one day they will beat up the wrong person and it will cost them.
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