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Post by bribers on Mar 27, 2010 15:10:45 GMT 1
Lots of chat on the paperwork and the bureaucracy living and working here - what is the most ridiculous law you have come across to date? To get the ball rolling, my three are:
1. It is illegal for a cafe to sell alcohol before 0800. If this is to deter the drunks, they are setting the bar fairly low...
2. You need a POA from an account holder to pay money INTO his account (at least for foreign currency in PBZ)
3. The new ag land law where land can only be sold through a central agency which doesn't exist.
Am sure there are some much better ones out there - contributions welcome.
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Post by mambo on Mar 27, 2010 18:29:05 GMT 1
Another nice one will help you 'cook the books' of your company if you want to sell the company.
Let's suppose you have 1000 Kuna on your account.
Go to the bank, take the 1000 Kuna out in cash and immediately give it back to them, so don't even leave the bank. You will have to declare it as turn over and register it as such in your books. This process you can repeat 100 times and all of a sudden you have a turn over of 100,000 Kuna, you can even prove it !
Of course it will create problems because you will have to pay pdv on this turn over and profit tax.
I can understand that you have to declare normal deposits on your account, but you should be able to put money back if you can prove you just took it out. Unfortunately the banks don't accept this.
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Post by pocketvenus on Mar 27, 2010 20:13:28 GMT 1
It did my head in the way in all public institutions you have to give the full name of your mother and father. My father was Norwegian and had an o with a forward slash in his name, and they used to spend ages looking for it on their computers. Ridiculous!
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Post by noddy on Mar 29, 2010 13:05:58 GMT 1
Got another one... grown women need their father to apply for their passports for them where???
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Post by siriwan on Apr 1, 2010 19:20:55 GMT 1
Pocketvenus... I was once with my brother and husband at the border. The two men had to give their father's names and places of residence. My brother had to write down when our Dad is buried! But i didn't have to give anything because I am married so my husband was in charge of me. (very 19th century...) I'm the opposite - my husband is "poljoprivrednik" so has no official "job" as such. As he's not Croatian, he gets his visa when I get mine (hoping I get my new one in a few days...) Still... I had to make him a rental contract for sharing my house (the house is in my company's name...)!!!!! And as for the parents' names, my mother's name has a "q" in it and they are sometimes stuck... :-) But we'll survive... :-))
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Post by kellycrystal on Apr 13, 2010 13:38:29 GMT 1
I've never been in a country with so many silly laws. I've heard so many of them that I now forget most of them. • Someone born in another country to two Croatian parents has to present the parents' wedding certificate to get his/her Croatian citizenship. (There is no consideration that someone could have a kid and not be married.) • When I closed a bank account I had to pay the bank 10 kuna. I still do not understand why. • When I filled out my official work booklet, I had to go buy a new blank one because I was told that there was a new law passed saying that the lady in the office had to fill out my name with her spacial blue pen (it was a normal ballpoint pen like the one I had used originally). • If you get a work permit and residence permit (and don't fall into a few special categories), your husband or children can't join you in Croatia until you have been here for two full years. The list could go on and on. -- www.pondjumperscroatia.com
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Post by kellycrystal on Apr 13, 2010 13:51:40 GMT 1
A couple more I just thought of: • A new company name must be Croatian or Latin (no other languages allowed to be used - how silly.) • Grocery stores are not allowed to put their logo on the stronger plastic bags that they sell at the check-out register. • I've heard of 3 instances of ex-pats (one being my husband) having to pay back-pay for Croatian health insurance after a new law was passed requiring more "categories" of expats to have Croatian health insurance. (and this was no chump change - ours was over 3000 kuna and that was the smallest of the 3 instances) -- www.pondjumperscroatia.com
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Post by gmh on Apr 14, 2010 8:36:11 GMT 1
My favourite is the recycling law: consumer buys a drink in a plastic or glass bottle. takes it home and drinks it. Then should take it back to the shop in order to recycle the bottle and the shop gives a small amount of money - about 5p I think. (Normal enough so far.) Then the consumer - now known in Croatian law as "the taxpayer" is obliged by law to take the 5p to the local tax office, fill out a form an hand it over as tax! No one ever does it, of course, and I'd bet the local tax officers wouldn't know what to do with someone who did try to pay this tax, but this is what the Croatian law requires anyway. I'm not sure where you got this information, but I have looked into it and can only say it appears to be utter rubbish ! All the information I can find on the matter has the tax department clearly saying there are no taxes applicable to the 50 lipa refund for plastic bottles. Could you point me in the direction of a source ? The one about grown women needing their father to apply for their passports for them is also not a law. Certainly my wife did not need her father to do so. There's certainly enough real stupid laws here without ones having to be made up. ;D
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Post by keepsmiling on Apr 14, 2010 17:29:12 GMT 1
Well said Carol! I think the Cro Gov't really likes messing people up.
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Post by gmh on Apr 14, 2010 20:36:16 GMT 1
Gavin, I do sort of mind the implication that I am a liar... its not ok to say that sort of thing and you've seen enough of my posts down the years to know that it is not my style. the Carol, sorry if you thought i was implying that you were a liar. It was not my intention to do so, and I don't believe I did. I did state, ' I'm not sure where you got that information' which obviously implies that I don't think you made it up yourself. You should read more carefuly and take things less personaly, you'll have an easier life. You know as well as anyone how often laws change here, so it seems odd you would quote one that is at least 3 years old.
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Post by Estelle on Apr 15, 2010 1:17:43 GMT 1
A law might be 1000 years old, and could qualify as the most ridiculous law in Croatia. Lets keep it lighthearted and not take things too seriously.
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Post by poiter on Apr 15, 2010 6:29:46 GMT 1
i hope croatian politicans are reading all this. i know they wont do a thing about changing anything in croatia. but atlleast they can think about it for a milisecond or less.
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Post by propertymanagement on Apr 19, 2010 0:07:38 GMT 1
I know one ... I am pretty sure this is most ridiculous one:
If you own a land plot that is located in the building area and you want to split it (let's say you have two kids and want to divide the land into 2 plots), you can't do it without asking for the building permit first. So, even if I don't want to build, I need to get a building permit (or location permit in some cases) in order to divide the land plot into 2 smaller parcels. This stupid law has been brought 4-5 years ago, and I can't believe it is still in force.
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Post by brokersplit on Nov 28, 2017 8:51:20 GMT 1
One that i find very useless law is that foreigner cant buy agricultural land even if house is on the plot. They need to open company in Croatia and then they can buy that land without any problem. Such bureaucracy rejects prospective investors.
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 3, 2017 19:12:06 GMT 1
It certainly does. I am advised by my friendly MUP person that it was a move to prevent a Spain-esque stampede. Another told me it was to keep prices low so that Croatians could afford to buy property in their own country. Both are valid I guess but on July 31st 2020, that has to stop as far as EU citizens are concerned. The seven year qualifying period will end at that date after which HR cannot "discriminate against EU citizens" - is how it was described by one EU negotiator. My guess is that another more obtuse method will be found to keep foreigners from buying land. As for the Brits and Brexit, I have no idea what will happen regarding their status, neither do they. www.ruralpropertycroatia.com
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