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Post by pizzaandsalsa on Apr 13, 2012 20:40:57 GMT 1
on the question of the amnesty to obtain a Usage Permit (we have building permit, house built 1971) can anybody recommend an architect who has taken care of preparing/submitting such paperwork successfully? Trogir/Split area. thanks
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Post by tiggerai on May 2, 2012 13:56:45 GMT 1
pizzanadsalsa - we are in sibenik area - but attempting to iron out what we need also - will keep you posted if we find anything of use. (ha!)
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Post by pizzaandsalsa on May 3, 2012 21:51:53 GMT 1
thank you tiggerai. Please keep me posted for any progress on the subject of going through the amnesty process. If you can recommend any professional (architect or otherwise) who will take care of the process/paperwork for you, I would appreciate it.
Also anybody else on the forum who has successfully gone through the amnesty, or is doing it now and can share more info with us, or any more updates, thanks.
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Post by Madgolfer on May 4, 2012 5:10:40 GMT 1
The government have issued general advice on what you need to do in terms of preparing paperwork through the services of a structural engineer, surveyor and architect etc.
But as yet no official guidelines have been issued to the local authorities on how to actually issue an amnesty permit. In Koprivnica recently there was a case of someone legalising an outbuilding to an already registered house.
Unless someone can tell us otherwise we know of no offices that have been told how to do the work of issuing an amnesty building permit.
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Post by tiggerai on May 4, 2012 9:43:12 GMT 1
pizzaandsalsa - just to clarify I was talking about Usage permits - we've already got a building permit like you (we are just up the coast though so hopefully shouldn't be too different)
We tried the local opcina for some information and they seemed quite helpful - although the planning office was closed so we might try emailing them. We've also got the name of a property lawyer (who works with the property management company that is going to take over management of our building) that spoke reasonable english in Sibenik who is going to check out what we need to obtain a Usage permit for touristic use.
I'm wondering if a building permit can be split into residential / business usage and then go from there to get the usage permit updated - as I'm sure some people own shops/houses that have a dual purpose? Although that looks like a lot of beurocracy to me... would just be more helpful if we could classify an apartment's usage and not the whole building!
Thanks all - clubbing together for information is a great help as there isn't much out there (andobviously changes from one county to another!)
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Post by Madgolfer on May 7, 2012 12:40:22 GMT 1
Checked with our local planning office this morning and they still have not been told how to issue an amnesty building permit.
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Post by crojoe on May 7, 2012 14:01:20 GMT 1
Checked with our local planning office this morning and they still have not been told how to issue an amnesty building permit. You'll be able to find out the details come the 31st of November 2012. So far they haven't discussed the matter or decided if it should be classed as a crime till certain players have secured themselves up against any fall out.
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Post by sandybear124 on May 17, 2012 11:37:16 GMT 1
Saw a solicitor a few days ago re purchasing our property back from the company we set up to originally buy. We do not have a usage permit and he has advised us to wait until after June this year as he says there is something in the pipeline re changing this new law. He is very confident that it will mean a usage permit will not be necessary for selling a property.
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Post by Madgolfer on May 18, 2012 7:54:47 GMT 1
And dont forget that everything effectively stops or closes down for the six weeks starting the last week of July until the second week of September.
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Post by sandybear124 on May 18, 2012 13:36:10 GMT 1
Not sure what point you are making Madgolfer! There has been so much doom and gloom re the usage permit issue I thought the news from the solicitor may give people a glimmer of hope.
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Post by Madgolfer on May 18, 2012 14:46:04 GMT 1
Sandybear I was answering CJs sarcastic post....
You'll be able to find out the details come the 31st of November 2012.
It will indeed be good news if the usage permit and other issues are sorted out soon after June this year as your lawyer suggests.
Please keep us all updated with any other inside info you get as well. As you say any hope is welcome at the moment.
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Post by furious on May 31, 2012 20:55:42 GMT 1
I am told by our architect that the law from July 2011 is being revised, when will this become law?
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Post by Madgolfer on Jun 1, 2012 7:46:38 GMT 1
We still have no news here in Vrbovec. Our guess it is that there will be some sort of "patch" much like the previous government did with the agricultural land law, which by the way is still awaiting judgment at the constitutional courts 3 years later. There at least has to be an extension on the Dec 31st 2012 deadline. All will be revealed in due course.
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Post by Madgolfer on Jun 13, 2012 6:20:36 GMT 1
Revised deadline.
Ministry announces deadline for buildings to be legalised Croatian Times
Croatia's Ministry of Construction has announced that the final deadline for which owners of illegally built buildings can apply to have them legalised will be 30 June 2013. The day before EU accession.
After that date the Ministry says that the government will pay for the legalisation and send the invoice to the buildings owner. If the owner does not pay the invoice then the state becomes the owner of the building. OK so that means that they will do all the work for me and I dont have to do anything other than pay? Excellent.
The Ministry also announced that under the new law, the legalisation fee will be able to be paid off in installments of up to five years, and utility charges in that time will be 50 per cent cheaper. Just keeps getting better.
The government expects that there will now be rush at the counters as people start to complete to neccessary requirements. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Who writes this stuff its priceless.
Under the previous law, legalising a house of 200 square meters would cost up to 100,000 kuna (15,000 Euros) in some attractive areas. Under the new law it will still not be possible to legalise objects that are not in accordance with the regional plan, unless the building is a maximum of two storeys.
Another addition to the new law is the abolition of the previous statutory provision under which an object can not be legalised within 70 meters from the sea, reports daily newspaper Jutarnji list.
Ok we have just come back from our local building permit office (aka space planning office) and guess what? They have no idea what we were talking about. Could we come back on Friday when they are next open again and speak to the boss.
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Post by MartinM on Jul 13, 2012 10:51:05 GMT 1
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