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Post by Ghost on Jul 23, 2005 19:09:41 GMT 1
I am really getting sick of all the negativity of this forum.
I also am tired of the slamming of Croatia. Why do any of you bother to post here if all you have is terrible things to say.
It seems like some of you only want to shed a negative light on Croatia.
Why if you feel this way not start your own forum and you can slam Croatia all you want.
I don't think this forum is suppose to be like that but it is and it seems like it is only getting worse. Some of the posters that use to come here and leave truthful, honest posts about Croatia seem to no longer come here. I think the negative attitude of this forum is draining and people can't be bothered to come back.
Yes, there is negative things about Croatia..... but why must we always be highlighting on them or exxagerating them or even making up lies about Croatia. I don't think that is what the webmanager intended with this forum.
We don't go around talking about all the bad things that happen in other countries. There is no perfect country and to expect croatia to be is ridiculous. Also to make Croatia look like it is a horrible place is not true either but some posters are attempting to make Croatia look like it is the worse place in europe to go on vacation or live.
I am trully tired of this attitude. I also think I am not the only one that feels this way.
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Post by jackal on Jul 23, 2005 20:20:07 GMT 1
I do get where your coming from but the webmaster has to let people have their view. Everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to say it. Only personal comments, racism and swearing should be deleted. I have seen some very sick postings that have rightly been deleted very quickly. I am glad the webmaster didn't delete one of my threads as it was important to me at least. It is a shame when people get upset and leave, I agree with you on that. I don't know how that can be prevented. If everyone is lovey dovey to each other then no truth will come out. Its the nature of the beast.
All hail the webmaster!
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Post by Ghost on Jul 23, 2005 23:31:14 GMT 1
I am all for peoples opinions. The posts I am talking about are just plain bashing & lies. I don't mind if everyone disagree's. What I mind are the out and out lies about Croatia. The exxxgerated negative posts about Croatia. It is like some people here have an agenda to try and keep people from holidays or living in Croatia. Almost like they want to keep everyone away from Croatia so they can benefit from living in Croatia themselves or have it to themselves. Some people full on lie about how bad it is in Croatia but then claim to live here. This makes no sense to me. To someone just stopping by this forum for the first time, they will hear how Corrupt & Evil Croatia and its citizens are. Not knowing that the person posting these outrageous posts is a regular here and has some hidden agenda. Majority of posters are honest and tell it like it is..... the goood and baaad! What is sad is when a newcomer comes on and posts something nice about a visit they had in Croatia, then is attacked by the usual suspects that the newcomer is basically an idiot and blind to what is really going on in Croatia, also the new poster is ridiculed that they don't live in Croatia and is therefore ignorant . It is quite pathetic the way some posters behave on this forum especially to new posters. So I am all for debate, discussion with honest, truthful, respectful posts no matter if the opinion does not match my own. I am tired of the lying, the bashing and the hidden agenda's of some of the posters.
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Post by jackal on Jul 24, 2005 0:03:39 GMT 1
I do sometimes wonder what people's motives are! Some of the postings are quite callous and cold hearted. Then again may be that's the nature of the internet, we don't really know who we are talking too, very few of us actually ever meet.
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Post by valiant on Jul 24, 2005 13:24:53 GMT 1
im sorry but most of my comments about croatia are negative. my experiences ..since moving here (no im not going to go back)!!!from australia have made me and my family a very angry and dissapointed bunch of people. eveyrthing..from the way people treat returning croats and their foreign born and rasied family to the economic and political corrutpion and beaurocracy ..all in the name of making large sums of money under the table .and i am NOT exagerating.people here are very very jelous of evvvverything from money to popularity in the local cafe .if you like ..i could give you a summary of all the negative experience we have been through . hey...i would efing love to write all nice things about croatia , since i am of croatian background...but my experiences havent been all nice. the only thing nice about croatia is the land itself .and..by the way...its being sold to foreginers. you see how foreigners know whats good ay? they buy the land but they dont go bothering ..opening factorys etc..here beacuse they know alll about the corruption and the way people think here . the jelousy and vicious merciless people in govt and local councils. i dare anyone to make an investment in croatia ..other than buying realestate .even buying relaestate here is a nightmare ..but making some kind of other investment is even harder. thats why ordinary croats are forced to buy apartments from corrupt builders and work for some balkan ahole for 3,000 kn a month.
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Post by EMIZ on Jul 24, 2005 13:43:51 GMT 1
Ghost the idea that you are all for others opinions, is the funniest thing you have ever said on here. You are not interested in opinions, you are not interested in the truth, you are only interested in spouting nationalist drivel, anything that makes Croatia look better than it really is. I sometimes wonder if you really believe what you're saying, but I guess that years of nationalist conditioning takes its toll.
Your “old school” attitude, your refusal to accept the truth or to accept the requirement for the people of Croatia to take responsibly for change is exactly why Croatia is still a Balkans country in every way possible.
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Post by midge on Jul 24, 2005 14:23:39 GMT 1
No one really wants Croatia to look bad. We are discussing different issues. I'm only interested in the truth. I'd be more than happy if things weren't as bad as they are. I love my country and that's why I want it to become a better place. Keeping a closed eye is not patriotic at all. Being aware of problems is the first step... Things are far from being rosey in Croatia, and we have got to accept it.
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Post by David R on Jul 24, 2005 18:08:12 GMT 1
Ghost, I live in Croatia, I have never seen one person write so much one side rubbish as you, I think that you’re a bit of a jackanory.
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Post by Ghost on Jul 24, 2005 20:07:42 GMT 1
Ghost, I live in Croatia, I have never seen one person write so much one side rubbish as you, I think that you’re a bit of a jackanory. We all know emiz that David R is your alias. I never write that things are all rosey but the few negative nutholes on here are posting things that just are not true! I believe these posters are just negative about life no matter where they live. Valiant, if it is so badddd! Why the hell are you staying. You could go back to Australia remake your money in a country that is not corrupt and the people are never jealous. Where life is wonderful I just don't see why you would stay in a place that is so horrorible. Why let your children live in this horror shop. Get them out. Quit complaining and get out OR is it NOT AS BAD AS YOU LIKE TO MAKE IT? Midge, no one says we want people to lie about the conditons in Croatia but when others express having a wonderful experience in Croatia why is it that emiz jumps down their throats and calls them idiots. I think that is just down right ignorant and uncalled for. Also people who live here write their experiences and they don't paint them rosey but Emiz is angry if you are not painting everything doom and gloom. I do believe along with some others he does not live here because he is so far off in his opinions and paints Croatia so negatively.....no wonder people think he is a serb trying to come to this forum and cause trouble. I can not blame them for this thought. Why would anyone lie so much about a country. The only time he writes a semi nice post is after the webmanager has deleted a bunch of his nasty posts and he realizes that he will not be able to post unless he tones it down. People have offered to meet with Emiz and it is quite funny he always has an excuse for why he can't meet them. I do not know what his agenda is and why he would paint the picture so black here in Croatia. I have family here that have business and I have worked oversea's to make my money. I have never had the problems that he is talking about on the scale he is talking about. My families with business's some have had to jump a few hoops others nothing... it happens. Sometimes they don't get paid for a few months and that means their employee's don't get paid. Yes life can be hard but to paint the picture that emiz is painting is just f***** ridiculous!!!!! and unrealistic! People have choices if they do not like where they live, especially foreigners to a country.... they do not have to live here they can leave to their homeland. Like I told Emiz before. There is something that A. Einstein said before. The definition of INSANITY is repeating something over and over and over and expecting a different outcome at the end. So why someone would stay in a country supposedly living in this country, stay if over and over and over he keeps having the same experiences. HE HAS AN AGENDA and it is not a good one for this forum.
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Post by David R on Jul 25, 2005 2:00:48 GMT 1
Well Ghost, I have just got back from a good night out in Zagreb, you know in Croatia, I also spent saturday night with several people who read and use this forum, you have been told this previously, you seem like a nob to me.
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Post by to many aliass to count on Jul 25, 2005 2:57:56 GMT 1
Well Ghost, I have just got back from a good night out in Zagreb, you know in Croatia, I also spent saturday night with several people who read and use this forum, you have been told this previously, you seem like a nob to me. Why don't you name all the people you are hanging out with that belong to this forum. All the registered user's that hang out with David R. and emiz.... come back up your friends allegations of knowing emiz. There are only 2 people that say they have met emiz.... and they are emiz and maybe a few others on here are fake alias for emiz. It is very easy to sign up as a guest under different IP's. It is very easy to have fake accounts to register as a user but much easier just to use different ip's to be a guest. It does not take a genius to figure this out.
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hello webmaster wakey wakey
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Post by hello webmaster wakey wakey on Jul 25, 2005 4:57:07 GMT 1
You live in england, you live in america, oh yes you do, oh no I don't
total boring dribble
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Post by EMIZ on Jul 25, 2005 10:39:28 GMT 1
Well Ghost, I have just got back from a good night out in Zagreb, you know in Croatia, I also spent saturday night with several people who read and use this forum, you have been told this previously, you seem like a nob to me. Too many...David has already done that if you would like to look through previous threads...hence..she didn't mention it again...I know David very well...he used to work for me...He has proved he lives here…he vouches for me---yet not one person can confirm where she is…the whole thing stems back to when she was using her previous username..and she admitted to living in the Usa she objected to my view that she has no idea about Croatia as she has never lived here…so she reinvented herself and now not only lives here…has attempted to turn the whole situation around…pathetic really. Why don't you name all the people you are hanging out with that belong to this forum. All the registered user's that hang out with David R. and emiz.... come back up your friends allegations of knowing emiz. There are only 2 people that say they have met emiz.... and they are emiz and maybe a few others on here are fake alias for emiz. It is very easy to sign up as a guest under different IP's. It is very easy to have fake accounts to register as a user but much easier just to use different ip's to be a guest. It does not take a genius to figure this out.
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Post by Would you please stop whining on Jul 25, 2005 11:53:07 GMT 1
EMIZ, will you please stop following Ghost around this forum and freaking out at his every post. Ghost is entitled to his opinions, just as you are enitled to yours. You come across as a rude and uncivilised person. Just what exactly is your issue with Croatia? Lack of clear shoe polish and pecan pie? I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you, since you're about to move to Rome anyway. Or is it Barcelona? Kinda hard to keep up with you story, changes day to day.
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Post by Anna on Jul 25, 2005 14:27:33 GMT 1
I have nothing against people presenting their opinions, good, bad or otherwise. What I do have get annonyance with is the way that people put forward their beliefs.
I am personally sick of the constant sniping, bitching, bullying, name-calling, insults and arguments (which keep going round and round in circles!!) that so many threads evolve into. I am very sick of having to trawl through all of these messages day in and day out and deleting posts. And I really do try and give people the benefit of the doubt - the odd dubious remark here or there I leave, but then that just escalates so then I have go back through threads and delete items which started the whole thing.
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