The Current Property Market in Croatia

[irac]

Poor Alsdoubles, it beggars belief how bad you find the country, especially a genuinely upandcoming town like Sibenik, so bad and yet persevere! Are you involved in local community at all? If not, try it out, it'll give you so much extra leverage with anything legal or that needs to be pushed through, and learn how to play the political system, since all the locals do it too! Most of all, cheer up, Summer is on the way.

[alsdoubles]

LoveU2 said:

I don't know what kind of properties you looked at for that amount of money but I am NOT talking about a card board box in the middle of a mine field ... I am talking about a real home in livable condition. Not some dump.... You also say it is cheap to fix one of these dumps(homes) .... Are you sure you live in Croatia.... Building permits are expensive and it is not cheap to build.

It might be inexpensive to build if you get your family and friends to help do the work. (slave labor ;D)

By the baldrick are'nt you the one that is always complaining about how expensive everything is?

OOhhh and I also forgot to ask you something else, you keep complaining of the cold (there in Sibinek) I did not think your home would be cold with all that heinz bean eating goin on! ;D


Love myself and U2.......hehehehe!

Looked at traditional stone houses, right smack bang in the centre of Sibenik. One I really fancied but the wife didnt fancy the four flights of very steep stairs with no hand rail. (Probably wise really, as we do indulge in the grape regularly, as does most of Croatia). That was fully furnished. Still empty. Plus a few concrete bunkers, which are also still empty.
In the year I have been here I have found some good teams. A roofer especially who does good fast work and for very small money. Which now that I've been here a year, I do realise with these good teams it would be possible to renovate a wreck. There are also rip-off merchants around.
And slave labour. Well the guys who dug down to the centre of the earth to find my Turkish/Roman sewers, which were - interesting, they earn 4 grand UK a year. Sibenik Voda Co. Slave labour. They all probably still owned 1 or 2 properties through the family thing in Croatia.
Croatia is okay, I have an full set-up here, which next time I winter here will have to have a state of the art heating system.
And local people. They all moan about the system and the corruption. My wifes family rather large and extended. Virtually ever grave in the local graveyard has one name. So we've mixed and listened. Few people appear very involved, to be honest. Like lemmings almost. The go with the flow, good or bad...and moan a lot.
Oh, and I must mention I am going back to the UK on the 15th. for a 'while' to earn some dosh and fill up on curry and English beer.
LoveU2. I don't do the bible belt middle America stuff. It makes me throw up. (And the rest of the world). I hate everyone....equally. Very buddhist y'know.

[irac]

Good to know you'll get a break from it all soon, but why be a lemming? Don't just sit around and complain, and enjoy the fruits of the vineyards like the locals, use your western energy to get something going, it'll make the days seem so much better and shorter! Oh, and the nights longer, in a good way!

[alsdoubles]

irac said:

Good to know you'll get a break from it all soon, but why be a lemming? Don't just sit around and complain, and enjoy the fruits of the vineyards like the locals, use your western energy to get something going, it'll make the days seem so much better and shorter! Oh, and the nights longer, in a good way!

Good even minded response from Iraq. I did 'hope' to get something going but, my Croatian wife and my translator, is NOT happy here. Plus she is scarred for life from the mosquitos that never once bothered me. So, there you go. Not quite what I had in mind, but aint life just like that. I have a fully kitted out holiday home and could well be back quicker than she thinks. Also, as a living in the UK I dealt in prestige watches. I have seen NONE here, on any wrist. And certainly not the mass ownership and mass earnings potential to buy them. The only brands I've seen are brands you couldn't give away anywhere but eastern Europe. Casio, Ellesse, Espree etc. The odd Omega. ONE, in Split, in a shop window. Probably still there. I brought 30 grands worth with me. Tried to sell them. No luck, so I'll be taking them back. I also checked out ther antique markets, where they're attempting to sell things for 6 TIMES the UK price. But I saw no victims who had been living on the Moon buying. And if you also want really deep information, for my third occupation, for thirty I am probably one of the busiest antique clock dial restorers in the UK, and an ex-lecturer in the subject. Not a boast, a fact. Not seen much call for that here. So there you go, too much information. And also, I didn't really want to do much of that rubbish anyway. I came for a rest. Like I say, life's like that. Always tomorrow. Sutra. Until there isn't.

[irac]

You should be up in Zagreb, or at least with the rich people in Split, Sibenik is too nice a town to house the stuck up nouveau riche. You should have seen the spending sprees indulged in by Hajduk directors, their wives and the "supporters" who could afford a trip to Dublin this past summer, especially staying in a 4* hotel! There is a market for those watches (despite the mosquitoes) but it's in the carpetbagging society circles. No need to give up on it just yet!

[Culchie]

irac said:

You should be up in Zagreb, or at least with the rich people in Split, Sibenik is too nice a town to house the stuck up nouveau riche. You should have seen the spending sprees indulged in by Hajduk directors, their wives and the "supporters" who could afford a trip to Dublin this past summer, especially staying in a 4* hotel!

You should have seen them going home as well with their tail between their legs !!!

Shelbourne sent them packing !!

[irac]

Well, I was with them the whole time, or at least the team and directors, but what do they expect when they sell off half their team and let their best player go. Plus the manager was a silly twit who figured they could roll over them and took 2 minutes, or less, of his scouts advice. Plus Shels had a very, errmmm, inside track on things.

But most of all, the Croatian league has fallen back, they've no money, imagine, their top earner takes in less than half of Shels, makes no sense, yet with all the money Shels are back in debt, after clearing off the 2mill from before the European run!

Still, the fans and players enjoyed their stay in Dublin, maybe a little too much!

[Culchie]

Could you imagine the craic if Croatia got a decent rugby team together and joined the 6 Nations?

Now that would be fun !

[irac]

We're trying, but you know, the Croatian boys, as full of testosterone as they are, can't seem to understand that rugby is a physical game. Come on Culchie, you've seen the local football, they feign death at a good old shoulder, or the hint of one. But if the Italians can get there........

Actually, Croatian rugby is getting better, the players are beginning to grab each other in a manly way ;D Truly though, they have a great bunch of underage players, especially in NADA, and up in Knin, so maybe they'll get to play Ireland soon, but I hope they spare us Ireland's Call