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Post by boris on Jun 8, 2006 10:49:55 GMT 1
People should pay taxes IMO!
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Post by carthan81 on Jun 8, 2006 19:53:11 GMT 1
If someone owns a property and allows people to stay there in return for money, then they should pay tax.
If money's being made, the taxman wants to know.
No doubt some have been allowing their "friends/relatives" to stay in their apartments "for free" - with an obligatory "gift" to the family at the end of their stay...
How would the tax office crack down on that?
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Post by carthan81 on Jun 8, 2006 19:58:21 GMT 1
How will this affect me if I'm stayng at my girlfriend's flat for 8 weeks this summer?
On the last few trips I didn't register as a tourist, but on my long summer hols I do, just in case.
She comes with me to the police offices (just to translate...) but will she now have to show proof that she owns the place?
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Post by Ribaric on Jun 8, 2006 20:27:40 GMT 1
My landlady came to the police station with me and, after waiting 45 mins, was asked to show documents to prove she owned the flat. This was OK until we were told that the document must be less than 6 months old.
So, off we went across town to the land registry office only to find that, after waiting 45 mins, because she married since she bought it (new surname), she can't get a new document until she gets another document to show that she is the same person.
So, off we went back across town to her house to get her marriage certificate and then back to the relevant office to get a younger-than-6-months document showing her names and how/why they changed. After waiting 45 mins, we got it but it is not valid without some kind of stamp ... which they don't do there.
So, off we went across town to the relevant office to buy the 10 kuna stamp and, 45 mins later, had it officially licked and legally stuck on.
So, back we went to land registration office to get the less-than-6-months-old document (having waited 45 mins) proving she is the owner and that she has a new surname.
So, back we went to the police station to get my visa card. The original police officer had gone for the day so we had to (after 45 mins in the waiting area) re-explain what we wanted to the new lady. She was less than helpful but, after all this, I got a piece of white card which means sweet sod all and has no value.
In case of what?
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Post by carthan81 on Jun 8, 2006 22:37:45 GMT 1
Wow - headache! ...after all this, I got a piece of white card which means sweet sod all and has no value. In case of what? I've never had any trouble - just turn up at the office and see the woman, fill in the form etc. I've only been stopped by the police once - in a Slovenian car - and I wasn't registered as a tourist or anything. The copper let us off though as we were on the way to a funeral. They're not all bad. I also cross the border a lot by road to Slovenia. Usually they just wave you through, but over the summer the border chaps can get a bit thorough. I guess it's worth having. |
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Post by nikh on Jun 13, 2006 7:48:08 GMT 1
They are and they will,you may not like it but thats how it is, sutivan last year 3 Hungarains fined 10000 euro each, if you dont have mfa and you rent and get caught , they will stop your process if you purchased privately and you will have to sell your apt at price you bought it , (simplification) If you read the newspaper you will see they have strengthened the power of the officials and guess what motivates them? its revenue. YOu may think its stupid and draconian but thems the rules!!!!! When I came here first, my friends were thrown out of my apt.because I was advised it would never happen and if it did , a bottle of whickey would fix it . You may have been lucky, but not anymore.
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Post by AndyPandy on Jun 14, 2006 11:19:00 GMT 1
nikh,
Youre talking rubbish.
According to your logic until you have MFA papers no-one can stay at the property not even the owner.
What if someone other than the owner says he is the owner. No proof cos there are no papers!!
Forcibly sell the house, what rubbish, to whom.
People who rent for money should pay taxes.
But in EVERY case the authorities have to show who is the owner (and if there are no papers will be difficult), that money has changed hands (as opposed to friends family).
In my case the MoI lost the papers after 5 years.
Anyone trying to kick my friends family out and steal my peoperty will end up with a slit throat!
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Post by nikh on Jun 15, 2006 10:30:10 GMT 1
Wow youre a bit angry arent you!!!!  ?? re read the email because it must be difficult seeing through that fog of yours, That is not what was said at all. |
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Post by capio on Jun 15, 2006 11:49:28 GMT 1
Anyone trying to kick my friends family out and steal my peoperty will end up with a slit throat! That's not a very nice attitude old bean, Croatia has enough savages. no need to import them.
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Post by lojalnost on Jun 15, 2006 14:09:56 GMT 1
Andypandy, more like Andy Bravo Two Zero.
...just to say that if you want to rent to tourists as a business for the summer get a licence. It shouldn't take more than two weeks and it won't set you back much. After all if you can afford a house there stop moaning.
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Post by AndyPandy on Jun 15, 2006 14:59:23 GMT 1
Lojalnost,
Dont get me wrong people that rent should definitely pay taxes. I think avoiding paying taxes is theft, BUT
My point is that it seems Cro authorities will not bother proving you are renting, before throwing people out and thus may affect innocent people letting occasional friends family stay .
To prove you are renting tou have to
a) prove ownership
b) prove money changed hands
With most still waiting after up to 4 years for their papers a) is a bit difficult!
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Post by capio on Jun 15, 2006 15:22:56 GMT 1
I am certainly not an expert on this and I am sure somebody will correct me, but my understanding is that tax or some kind of levy must be paid for guests regardless of if they pay for their stay or not, unless they are close family.
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Post by AndyPandy on Jun 15, 2006 15:30:51 GMT 1
Capio,
That's obviously cobblers.
If that is true, then if a friend visits a friend in Croatia and stays overnight (or indeed you have a one-night stand), then you have to pay tax!!!!!
What exactly are the exact max. hours a friend can visit you? Show me the wording in the statute?
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Post by mark2 on Jun 15, 2006 16:43:24 GMT 1
Even close family must pay the tourist tax. They are supposed to be registered within 24 hours of arrival. It's only 40 pence a night for adults, every little helps with the rebuilding of a war-torn country.
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Post by lojalnost on Jun 15, 2006 19:15:33 GMT 1
The inspectors have enough work to do chasing down those who are renting out to tourists as a viable business.....they won't turf out an old slapper you've picked up at a disco.
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?? re read the email because it must be difficult seeing through that fog of yours, That is not what was said at all.