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Post by u on Jun 17, 2006 5:49:59 GMT 1
hi my dad has land on island ugljan. i would like to build a little garage for my truck and jetski but without the authorities knowing if possible. my question:
1.How much would it ROUGHLY be to lay a concrete pad and a simple 1.5 car garage out of blocks?
2. What/how would my father begin this process (permits?)
3. when you get a permit (if u need one) is there a time limit on when the structure must be built?
4. Could i get away with, if i wanted to, finish the interior and use it as living space when i come for 2 weeks a summer?
my thinking was that maybe i could make it seem like a garage but run solar panels/generator (no electricity connect) fillable cistern for water (no utilities) and a simple block cesspool underground.
or just as a garage...............
thanks
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Post by u on Jun 17, 2006 5:51:24 GMT 1
by the way, ive done construction in the past and have made this setup for a cabin i used to own in upstate ny
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Post by Carol on Jun 17, 2006 6:26:46 GMT 1
If you do this legally, then you begin the process by finding out if the land is buildable under the general urbanistic plan - do not assume that it is zoned for building just because because there is a building a few metres away. If you get permission then you have two years to start work before it expires. Whatever you do, do not join the garage onto the house as you run a risk that the whole lot would be condemned.
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Post by Carol on Jun 17, 2006 6:30:42 GMT 1
also, i really hope your father is on good terms with ALL his neighbours. Reporting your neighbour seems to be something of a local pastime.
As an estate agent, we see so many properties for sale which have been built illegally in some way. The most usual is to over develop rather than to get no permission at all. Getting retrospective permission is a nightmare and its just not an option to sell without all the papers being clean.
My advice - don't do it.
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Post by u on Jun 17, 2006 9:09:25 GMT 1
carol the land is some farming land about 120 meters from the sea. there never was a structure on it. my father says that thees no reason why you couldnt build its big enough...
so then the first step is for his to get this approval. what if they say ok?
then i have to apply for a building permit? how long will that take?
do theycome out and inspect the place every stepofthe way durng the build?or just at the final product?
would they let a local build it ? myself and my cousins ?
Iknow thats a lot of questioning but if anyone knows anything about the general procedure to build a garage or simple small house on a faily owned piece of land please let me know
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Post by Ribaric on Jun 17, 2006 9:31:05 GMT 1
Why would you call youself ustasha666? As for advice, Carol knows and advises you well. Don't build illegally.
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Post by mambo on Jun 17, 2006 11:07:48 GMT 1
For farmland you can get permission to build a structure which can be used 'to store your farming materials' (tools, chemicals etc) and as a place where you can 'rest' from the hard work on the field, which means you can eat, sit and rest there. The dimensions are however limited, i.o.w. you cannot build a shed of 300 m2.
If your space is out in the fields you won't have that many problems, I see those structures also here in Istria and you can clearly see that the people use it as a 'holiday getaway'. But as long as it is out in the fields, out of view of most people you have no problem.
However, if you have land on the coast it will become a problem if the road is immediately in front of it. This week I was in Dalmacija and along the coast I saw many pieces of land where the owners had parked a caravan and done a bit of labor on the land. That way it looked like farmland, but in reality it is of course a nice place on the waterfront.
I would not build illegally, that is not necessary, the drawing and building of a 'shed' will not cost you a fortune, but at least you have permission. When it is finished you make sure you plant enough trees and plants around it and try to make it look like it is farmland and the shed is for tools. When you hang the laundry outside, place chairs, bbq, terrace and make it look like you are living there, you will have problems in the long run.
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Post by u on Jun 18, 2006 19:01:46 GMT 1
i see my username has been mainpulated. oh well.......
anyway, im not going to go the illegal route.
so then does anone know roughly how much a simple 45 sq meter shell would cst to build? if they can do the foundation, walls, windows, doors and roof i can easily finish everything else.
would 35k euros do it?
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Post by irac on Jun 18, 2006 19:25:13 GMT 1
Well, with the username you put in........did you expect any different?
The price you have to play with could work out, to build a decent structure with the minimum of luxury bank on 300-350ˆ per m2, for a top end structure (summer home) you'll look at ˆ500, but why not look around here for timber frame, it's a nice alternative and could help you get permission easier. Just a suggestion.
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Post by u on Jun 19, 2006 2:50:01 GMT 1
irac you think i could have something build (a shell) for as little as 350 euros per sq meter? that seems awfully cheap to me but i hope you are right. i was thinking maybe 1000 euros sq meter. Like i said, i need the foundation poured, walls, windows, doors and roof as well as an electric hookup and water.
so you guys think that 1000 a sq meter is more than enough? awsome
as for my username, i am now "u". i like it- its mysterious
i would be more than happy to do the timber thing but i have NEVER seen a wooden house on that island or really anywhere. do you know a company that builds either? it would be greatif someone there had wooden shelll kits and they assemble it all for you
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Post by irac on Jun 19, 2006 6:03:08 GMT 1
ˆ350 per m2 would be a very nice shell, esp if you get the right crew. As for wooden structures, just look up your local Yellow Pages, There ought to be 1-2 firms handling it in the area.
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Post by valiant on Jun 23, 2006 11:55:51 GMT 1
yeah, even buildng a simple garaage without making your neigbours jelous , isnt as simple as it seems.
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