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Post by Aleksandra on May 20, 2007 2:05:22 GMT 1
Hi, I am new here although I have been reading this board for a while. I am a bit confused with what Mambo said about rental price:
"Now, the price you are allowed to ask is not free. Only if you have something special (swimming pool or whole villa) you can ask more, but all the others have to abide by the published prices by the communce. The commune will divide the city into zones and for each zone a maximum price is determined and published. You can go lower, but quite obvious that the locals never go lower. "
Why cannot you rent for a higher price? I would think that the higher price, the more income tax the government makes. In fact, if I have max price prescribed in Croatia, then what would stop me charging more in UK and getting a difference paid in UK, of which Croatian government would not see anything nor able to tax it? Can anyone explain?
Buying a property that you want to rent with rental price ceiling prescribed by Croatian government does not seem very attractive!
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Post by darcy on May 20, 2007 4:36:30 GMT 1
I am confused as well. I think people answering these posts:
a) Do not know to explain the problem to others that are not familiar with Croatia (I think very often they are explaining things, as they would do to Croatians and assuming some background knowledge)
b) They are providing incomplete information
c) They are making up pretending to have an expert knowledge
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Post by mambo on May 20, 2007 9:24:19 GMT 1
Darcy + Kitty,
I don't pretend to know all the rules, I tell you what I know for sure, since I wanted to know how they come to these rediculous price hikes each year. My neighbor, who has been renting apartments (legally) for the last 30 years explained me most of them and since we were thinking about building a house as well my girlfiend (Croatian) did some research on this subject.
If you are not happy with this information you are free to find your own information.
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Post by darcy on May 20, 2007 11:07:20 GMT 1
mambo (or anybody else), Please do not get me wrong, but if you are just a common bloke, then your opinion is your best shot and no matter what, thanks a lot. If you are professional and at the same time you are using this forum to promote your services, I expect professional answer or just do not say anything. It is up to everybody to draw the line, but you cannot be on the same side of the fence and if I (or anybody else) get a little bit rough, please take into the account. BTW, I am locked in "quarantine" with some nasty flue, so I have been killing my time. If you girlfriend is Croatian, could you please ask her do I understand correctly this link and does it mean that regarding renting and charter foreigners and Croatians will be equal: www.mmtpr.hr/UserDocsImages/070418-nacrt-zakon-usluge-turiz.pdfThanks!
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Post by gmh on May 20, 2007 14:40:39 GMT 1
Darcy, I'm just some bloke who spends some of his spare time trying to give some advice to people wanting to visit/and/or live in Croatia. I do this because I like it here and hope that other people will discover the benefits also, either as tourists or residents. If you want(or anybody else) professional advice, then you should pay someone for it. After all this is just a forum. The professionals on here are under no obligation to provide their services for free. They can offer some advice which may lead peple to use there services, but why would they offer their full services for free ? I don't actually think that anyone expects them to.
You yourself are asking someone to translate something for free. Do you think you have a right to that or that maybe someone will do it out of the goodness of their heart ? Translation is a service that normally you would pay for. If someone does it out of the goodness of their heart, you can't expect that it's going to be 100% effort/correct/accurate as you would expect a payed service to be.
Can I ask what nationality you are ? Obviously from what you've said you're not Croatian and by the way you write you're not English or from an english speaking country .
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Post by Carol on May 20, 2007 16:07:11 GMT 1
I think Darcy wrote somewhere else he is Dutch? Certainly the way he writes is very typical of the Dutch people with whom i used to work. It was the strangest thing, but although we were both northern european bankers there were quite wide cultural differences. We in the british arm in the company just learned to understand that some of the things which were said by the Amsterdam office were really not intended to offend.
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Post by Aleksandra on May 21, 2007 0:07:44 GMT 1
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Post by JudeC on May 25, 2007 11:45:10 GMT 1
Well, I'm still confused - 'Register at the tourist office or police station' someone said on this thread. While police station is pretty clear there are a lot of tourist offices - and how 'official' do they have to be? For example, on the island of Ciovo in Okrug Gornji there is a tourist office - it says so on the sign outside although they have very little inforamtion inside. I think the nearest Police station is on the mainland side of Trogir. So, if I went into the Okrug Gornji tourist office could I register and how much do I pay per night per person for staying in a private individually owned property (no company)? Jude
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Post by capio on May 25, 2007 12:37:01 GMT 1
What they need to do is drop this communist notion of needing to know where everybody is at every minute and allow freedom of movement.
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Post by Carol on May 25, 2007 14:47:55 GMT 1
is that what its about? i thought it was a job creation scheme!
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Post by gmh on May 25, 2007 15:37:14 GMT 1
What they need to do is drop this communist notion of needing to know where everybody is at every minute and allow freedom of movement. If they wanted to know where everyone was every minute they would have 4.2 million surveillance cameras like Britain does. 1 for every 14 people ! I seem to recall having to state my intended address of stay when entering America, Canada, Britain, Austria. Are they also ex communist countries ? Also forgive me if I'm wrong but don't hotels all over the world have to take down your passport details and report your stay to the correct authorities ? It's just the system of doing it here that is annoying.
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Post by capio on May 25, 2007 16:20:58 GMT 1
Why would you as an apparent Brit need to state your address? Utter nonsense.
I forgive you, you are wrong.
The biggest difference with Croatia is that even nationals have to do it, that's what the commies do.
Did your brother have to report his address when he worked in Middlesbrough?
I agree about the cameras though, whats what happens when the loony left get in.
We even have talking cameras in boro, I heard the camera tell somebody off for peeing in the street once.
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Post by gmh on May 25, 2007 16:32:45 GMT 1
I didn't always have a British passport and no I'm not wrong. You have to give an address of where you intend to stay. SAme if ypu were to go to Australia. My brother didn't because he was born there and has always had a British passport. I don't know of a single Croatian citizen that registers with the police when they travel within Croatia.
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Post by capio on May 25, 2007 16:50:23 GMT 1
I didn't always have a British passport and no I'm not wrong. You have to give an address of where you intend to stay. SAme if ypu were to go to Australia. My brother didn't because he was born there and has always had a British passport. I don't know of a single Croatian citizen that registers with the police when they travel within Croatia. You only have to give an address if you require a visa, that's hardly the same as everybody. Whether the Croatians you know choose to follow the law is immaterial, they are supposed to, hence it being a commy law.
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Post by furio on Jun 20, 2007 14:51:08 GMT 1
I am interested in a few opinions on personally using a company owned property for vacation without paying rent, etc....
While I have found out that registering with the police is a must, because the problems that could arise from not doing it are significant, I don't know the risks associated with or paying the "tourist tax" but not paying rental nor having the property registered as a rental.
Through the act of paying the tax and filling out the relevant forms do you in fact attract attention that maybe your flat IS a tourist rental and therefore needs investigation? (of course you do not refer to the company that owns the flat in any way)
If there is a risk what are the risks of being investigated for NOT paying the tourist tax?
Thanks
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