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Post by justapixel on Jul 24, 2007 20:35:28 GMT 1
Tell us more oh masked one - was the one in front of you carrying the 70000 foreigners or just their properties? Hmmm... 70000 would be foreigners carrying their properties on tractors - that reminds me of an event in not so distant past... .
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Post by irac on Jul 25, 2007 14:56:06 GMT 1
Justapixel, depending on reports you'd at least need to double and at worst quadruple that number, for the last movement of such a size within our borders, and tractors would have been a luxury!
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Post by justapixel on Jul 25, 2007 15:21:09 GMT 1
Justapixel, depending on reports you'd at least need to double and at worst quadruple that number, for the last movement of such a size within our borders, and tractors would have been a luxury! Hey, I'm not the one who introduced the 70K figure. And AFAIR, luxury or not, tractors were omnipresent. .
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Post by irac on Jul 25, 2007 15:45:05 GMT 1
;D
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Post by zorro on Jul 25, 2007 21:59:35 GMT 1
Christ......could you imagine Croatia without any foreigners, time Cro government came out of the 1930s...
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Post by californiacro on Jul 25, 2007 23:52:55 GMT 1
Christ......could you imagine Croatia without any foreigners, time Cro government came out of the 1930s... Thank Goodness we did not have foreigners before..... or else you would not have what you like so much about Croatia today. Slowly if not controlled foreigners will ruin Croatia.... it will get overbuilt, polluted, and full of traffic....
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Post by capio on Jul 26, 2007 0:12:43 GMT 1
Christ......could you imagine Croatia without any foreigners, time Cro government came out of the 1930s... Thank Goodness we did not have foreigners before..... or else you would not have what you like so much about Croatia today. Slowly if not controlled foreigners will ruin Croatia.... it will get overbuilt, polluted, and full of traffic.... Says the Croatian living in America
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Post by zorro on Jul 26, 2007 1:59:04 GMT 1
Christ......could you imagine Croatia without any foreigners, time Cro government came out of the 1930s... Slowly if not controlled foreigners will ruin Croatia.... sieg heil !!! ;D
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Post by darcy on Jul 26, 2007 3:02:06 GMT 1
Christ......could you imagine Croatia without any foreigners, time Cro government came out of the 1930s... Thank Goodness we did not have foreigners before..... or else you would not have what you like so much about Croatia today. Slowly if not controlled foreigners will ruin Croatia.... it will get overbuilt, polluted, and full of traffic.... I do not want to offend anybody, but historically quite opposite is true - because effectively Croatians never ruled their country and country was indeed ruled by foreigners, we can enjoy it!
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Post by irac on Jul 26, 2007 5:45:19 GMT 1
There was never a Croatia without foreigners, even the mythical "croats" are blow ins, nothing more. Even the Slavic tribes are foreigners (originally) so when someone claims to be pure blood croat, then they're a true foreigner, if they claim to be 100% local, then genetically they should have died out hundreds of years ago. Croatia is a country of foreigners.
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Post by californiacro on Jul 26, 2007 6:32:08 GMT 1
What country is pure.... Hmmm... Europe we are all made up of many different peoples. Taking bits and pieces of what we liked about the different cultures.... you go far enough back... NO ONE IS PURE.... and what the hell is pure anyway... it is a stupid word when talking about people. We are talking about todays foreigners..... look at Spain for an example.... built up in certain parts, looking horrid full of Brits that bought little apts... it is just not a pretty site. No offense to the Brits that like that kinda thing. I don't want Croatia going in that direction.... building up, polluting and heavy traffic. Croatian population remains steady even declining. I don't want an overload of foreigners, buying up property... building cheesy apt/flats and the whole place looking like crap! Croatia is beautiful country....let it stay that way. Speaking of Croatian history.... this is a pretty interesting site. I don't agree with all but still very informative and interesting. www.croatianhistory.net/etf/et01.html
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Post by californiacro on Jul 26, 2007 6:33:31 GMT 1
Thank Goodness we did not have foreigners before..... or else you would not have what you like so much about Croatia today. Slowly if not controlled foreigners will ruin Croatia.... it will get overbuilt, polluted, and full of traffic.... I do not want to offend anybody, but historically quite opposite is true - because effectively Croatians never ruled their country and country was indeed ruled by foreigners, we can enjoy it! You are not offending anyone.... but what you are saying is not quite true... and even if it was.... the English ruled over the Irish.... so does the same thing apply. The same thing goes with many countries... just because someone reigns over you for a period of time does not take the fact away that it is your country and everyone can just come & do what they want. In his letter dated from 881 the Pope addressed Branimir as the `glorious prince'. This was the first time that the Croatian state was officially recognized (at that time the international legitimacy was given by the Pope). In Branimir's time Venetians had to pay taxes to the Croatian state for their ships traveling along the Croatian coast. King Tomislav, who ruled from from 910 to 928. 9th and the 10th century Croatia was one of the most powerful states in Europe. It had an enormous (for that time) army of 100,000 foot-soldiers and 60,000 horsemen, 80 larger and 100 smaller ships.
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Post by darcy on Jul 26, 2007 8:15:10 GMT 1
I do not want to offend anybody, but historically quite opposite is true - because effectively Croatians never ruled their country and country was indeed ruled by foreigners, we can enjoy it! You are not offending anyone.... but what you are saying is not quite true... and even if it was.... the English ruled over the Irish.... so does the same thing apply. The same thing goes with many countries... just because someone reigns over you for a period of time does not take the fact away that it is your country and everyone can just come & do what they want. In his letter dated from 881 the Pope addressed Branimir as the `glorious prince'. This was the first time that the Croatian state was officially recognized (at that time the international legitimacy was given by the Pope). In Branimir's time Venetians had to pay taxes to the Croatian state for their ships traveling along the Croatian coast. King Tomislav, who ruled from from 910 to 928. 9th and the 10th century Croatia was one of the most powerful states in Europe. It had an enormous (for that time) army of 100,000 foot-soldiers and 60,000 horsemen, 80 larger and 100 smaller ships. This one is hopeless.
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Post by Carol on Jul 26, 2007 9:12:06 GMT 1
believe me its not the foreigners who are buildign the cheesy apartments - the low quality build is a croat every time in my experience. Stairs which are almost vertical without any handrail or even a side, 10 litre hot water tanks in a 35m2 apartment for a family of four, no attention whatsoever to the exterior. i could show you such apartments and they are all buit and designed by croats. There are much fewer foreign apartment developers but most that i have seen aim for a slightly higher standard because they aim to capture "international buyers" as they call them.
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Post by irac on Jul 26, 2007 10:03:12 GMT 1
Darcy and Carol, don't argue or disagree, it's not worth it. Believe me.
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