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Post by californiacro on Sept 28, 2007 7:52:05 GMT 1
If you are into history and genetics... this is also a great site. www.historyofmacedonia.org/And this quote that was from the above article.... is one I always say about Croatian history! Qoute from article... What the world knows about them is through their enemies or competitors – the Greeks and RomansWinners write history.... then it gets fed to our youth who in turn make it a truth, when maybe all was a lie written by the winners(in war, enemy). That is why I get so pissed off when they talk about Croatians killing Jews when there are witness & documents proving Serbs did the same thing but no one ever talks about it but the focus is on Croatia only doing this but that is another topic and dangerous discussion because everyone lands up arguing. I find it amazing that Phonecians history is almost all covered up by its enemy. They destroyed anything that was even remotely linked to them... even walls that had artwork & writings they completely covered. |
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Post by zorro on Sept 28, 2007 8:22:41 GMT 1
he wasn't happy with EU politics and decided to turn back
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Post by justapixel on Sept 28, 2007 8:33:30 GMT 1
We definitely have 'one drop' of Mongolian blood  I not sure about Brits. Was it that Ghengis Khan came until todays borders of France and not further? Not sure, but I think he didn't conquer whole Europe. . Of course Brits do, so do Americans even though Genghis Khan has never been there. Nearly thousand years is a long period. . |
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Post by justapixel on Sept 28, 2007 8:55:50 GMT 1
Of course Brits do, so do Americans even though Genghis Khan has never been there. Nearly thousand years is a long period. . ??  . |
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Post by capio on Sept 28, 2007 9:48:53 GMT 1
You're puzzled? I just seen a woman walking a cat ... my neighbour in Zagreb did that and the first time I witnessed it choked after hysterically laughing.
Walking cats...it is just not right.
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Post by capio on Sept 28, 2007 9:57:31 GMT 1
Could be but I think his name was Boris so there may be some truth to these Hrvat - Persian links.
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Post by capio on Sept 28, 2007 10:00:04 GMT 1
That is why I get so pissed off when they talk about Croatians killing Jews when there are witness & documents proving Serbs did the same thing but no one ever talks about it but the focus is on Croatia only doing this but that is another topic and dangerous discussion because everyone lands up arguing. Who? Erm...why would it annoy you when it clearly happened? The fact that others also committed atrocities is neither here nor there, face up to your own countries past before worrying about others. The middle class in the UK have become apologists for our colonial past, the working class think we saved the world, there will always be ignorance. |
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Post by zorro on Sept 28, 2007 10:29:16 GMT 1
I didn't know you were afraid of the big bad wolf?
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Post by justapixel on Sept 28, 2007 10:37:16 GMT 1
. Americans are everybody (except native Indians who are real 'Americans') As for Brits, of course there is so many 'different blood' in their veins, we live in 21century, but that wasn't the case just two centuries ago (meaning now is people 'mixing' more than ever). I'm sure we have more Khans genes than them. People have always been mixing, Brits are mix of all kinds of local tribes like Celts, Picts, Blairs, and also all kinds of visitors from Nordic and Germanic tribes. But that's not the point, the point is that if you go back in time only 20 generations, each of us will have a million progenitors (minus significant interbreeding), if we go back 30 generations, we'll have a billion - much more than total population back then. So after some time everyone has a bit of everyone, although that part is so small and insignificant it's still there. So when I say almost everyone has Genghis Khan genes, that means there's a really small subset of their genotype succeeding from GK's. On the other hand, 8% of north Asiatic people actually have a dominant gene present which supposedly stems from a single source, most probably GK or one of his successors. . |
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Post by zorro on Sept 28, 2007 10:40:27 GMT 1
veliki vuk!
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Post by justapixel on Sept 28, 2007 10:41:07 GMT 1
Well, there is something that annoy me, and that's the fact that in the recent past our historians are writing some 'new history' where we are 'angels on Earth'. Like we didn't do anything that would harm anybody.  There is one story written for children, about boy and his lying about danger of comming wolf, but when real wolf came nobody believed him. Nice story.  Those are only a few historians, classical regime apparatchiks. F.T. was a historian, so he was the first who started the trend, then a few individuals followed. They aren't professionally respected, but they've had public exposure and funding by regime. . |
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Post by zorro on Sept 28, 2007 10:42:54 GMT 1
People have always been mixing yes I was always told to keep it in my trousers |
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Post by justapixel on Sept 28, 2007 10:46:15 GMT 1
Yep. Wery well said. But I still think that we have 'that little bit' more Khans genes than Brits. . Of course. I bet I have more GK genes than anyone on this forum. Sometimes I have flashbacks like that guy from "Hitchikers' Guide..." IYKWIM. . |
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Post by justapixel on Sept 28, 2007 10:51:55 GMT 1
Meaning, ordinary Croat will most likely think that's true. Average Croat is average human, which means he has about 10 seconds attention span, memory extending up to two years in the past, and is readily shaped by media. He believes what he's told to. Currently, theory of Iranian ancestry is more mocked than cited reverently, which leaves it to average Croat(tm) to decide whether he likes it or not. I cannot tell how much this theory is attractive to an aC, so I won't make any predictions. . |
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Post by zorro on Sept 28, 2007 10:56:40 GMT 1
yes I was always told to keep it in my trousers Sad je kasno za kajanje . ...are you Christian? Are you? Are you Christian? |
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