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Post by EMIZZZZAGREB on Jul 11, 2005 20:02:36 GMT 1
Must be morning time on the west coast of the good old us of A, my Croatian is much better than yours.
I'll leave when you move to Croatia ;D
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Post by ghostwriter on Jul 11, 2005 20:29:03 GMT 1
Must be morning time on the west coast of the good old us of A, my Croatian is much better than yours. I'll leave when you move to Croatia ;D Actually if you knew anything about world time you would know that it is not morning over in America but afternoon. You don't live in Croatia.... Thank God for that! But we would love for you to leave this forum. I love when the webmaster deletes your posts! It is most satisfactory!!!!! ;D
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Post by ghostwriter on Jul 11, 2005 20:31:16 GMT 1
By the way YOU DON'T SPEAK ANY CROATIANS SO HOW CAN IT BE BETTER THAN MINE. AND MY ENGLISH IS BETTER THAN YOURS AND IT IS MY 2ND LANGUAGE!!! ;D
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Post by EMIZZZZAGREB on Jul 11, 2005 20:35:22 GMT 1
My English is better than yours, my Croatian is better than yours, my Italian is better than yours, my German is better than yours.
End of story.
As for the time zone, it was morning on the west coast when I posted that, I guess you housewives don't worry about things such as time, dates etc.
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Post by ivo on Jul 12, 2005 6:48:22 GMT 1
I have lived in Croatia for 20 years of my life, don't tell me about Croatia, And everyone in this forum knows that you EMIZ are specialized in lies.
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Post by noddy on Jul 17, 2005 13:20:18 GMT 1
about the tipping...
if tipping is considered as an exact percentage of the bill - then croats really don't tip.
but rounding the bill i believe is also tipping and that IS DONE! it is not a must, but many people do it.
sometimes people do leave separate money just for the service, sometimes they leave change, sometimes they round up and say it to the waiter or they don't do any of that.
i know people that tip regularly, i know some that never tip. with me, personally, it depends on the amount of the money i have. if i'm short, i don't tip.
when just having a drink, you often don't tip. in restaurants tipping is much more common.
and that's it. no need to argue about this. there are no strict rules. you just go along with your feeling and the way you're accustomed to.
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Post by whynot on Aug 19, 2005 19:30:32 GMT 1
TIPPING - VERY INTERESTING SUBJECT ACTUALLY
But, I don't tip and I am trying to avoid it whenever possible (doesn't stop my partner though) What's the point? To be nice and say thanks for the service. Don't we pay for that anyway? Aren't they paid for the job they do? Why shall I, because waiter brought me a drink within 5 min and cleared the table (as previous customers have left and that's the part of his job anyway) leave him a tip, to show how grateful I am? Just don't get it. It's part of their job to give a good service (if they want any customers). If the prise we pay for drink/food covers only drink/food (doubt that though) and not much is left for the wages, they should put higher prises to their products to cover it all. And then it's up to me to decide, if that bar/restaurant is affordable for me to go to or not. I don't want to feel pressurised by silly tips. I have to do my job professionally and I do not get a tip for it. So basically when I give my customer good service and solve their problems over the phone, I should say "O by the way here is my name and please send me a tip because I was really helpful".
But still though, I leave tips at hairdressers. Probably something that's so deeply inbeded in me (as I was always told to tip a hairdresser) that I would feel horrible if I don't. And tell me why, why shall I feel bad? Hair cut down the local shop costs £15-17 (and I have quite short hair). Not to mention colouring for £34. And that's just down the local shop, so calculate how much it would be to go to centre - "IN" shops. They are taking good money and then expect tips. Also taxi drivers, yeah they are there to drive us around and help us with the luggage - but this is not A MUST. So he is doing his job, I have paid him for the service he provided and now I have to tip. REALLY.............
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Post by irac on Aug 20, 2005 6:20:32 GMT 1
good points whynot, sad, and always surprising, how women have to pay more than men for hairjobs, justice maybe?:-)
Really though, here I have found a culture of not tipping or rounding up bills, I was told from my first time here it's not the done thing. I do always leave something, unless the service is poor or I'm short on readies. Plus I think it's an important thing to do as what goes around comes around and that little extra, especially where I live, just filters back into the local economy and if more did it maybe one more job will be created. That's fanciful I know, but it makes me feel better leaving 1kuna after only paying 3 for the coffee.
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Post by Ribaric on Aug 20, 2005 13:04:09 GMT 1
Being an old git, I remember the level and quality of service in the UK in 70´s and before - when tipping did not exist, not in my world anyway. Result = 0/10 for service.
1980/81 I lived partly in the US and was exposed to the tipping culture where it was used to exact the level of service you´d wish for. Result = 9/10
The UK seemed to adopt this American way because so many Brits went to Florida and saw what real service was and refused to put up with the old way. Most people tip in the UK nowadays. Result= 7/10
Using this logic, Croatia is the same as anywhere else and although tipping does not sit well with sot ideals, it does mean that people get money and customers get service.
Y´all can see where I sit on this one.
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Post by ghostwriter on Aug 21, 2005 4:02:35 GMT 1
TIPPING - VERY INTERESTING SUBJECT ACTUALLY But, I don't tip and I am trying to avoid it whenever possible (doesn't stop my partner though) What's the point? To be nice and say thanks for the service. Don't we pay for that anyway? Aren't they paid for the job they do? Why shall I, because waiter brought me a drink within 5 min and cleared the table (as previous customers have left and that's the part of his job anyway) leave him a tip, to show how grateful I am? Just don't get it. It's part of their job to give a good service (if they want any customers). If the prise we pay for drink/food covers only drink/food (doubt that though) and not much is left for the wages, they should put higher prises to their products to cover it all. And then it's up to me to decide, if that bar/restaurant is affordable for me to go to or not. I don't want to feel pressurised by silly tips. I have to do my job professionally and I do not get a tip for it. So basically when I give my customer good service and solve their problems over the phone, I should say "O by the way here is my name and please send me a tip because I was really helpful". But still though, I leave tips at hairdressers. Probably something that's so deeply inbeded in me (as I was always told to tip a hairdresser) that I would feel horrible if I don't. And tell me why, why shall I feel bad? Hair cut down the local shop costs £15-17 (and I have quite short hair). Not to mention colouring for £34. And that's just down the local shop, so calculate how much it would be to go to centre - "IN" shops. They are taking good money and then expect tips. Also taxi drivers, yeah they are there to drive us around and help us with the luggage - but this is not A MUST. So he is doing his job, I have paid him for the service he provided and now I have to tip. REALLY............. I think if a person does there job and they get paid well for it. Why should they get tipped. Who started this tipping crap anyway. Service is not any better or any worse if there is tipping. Why should some people be tipped especially if they are making good wages without the tip. How about tipping the toilet washer, grocery store worker, the baker, street vendor, the police officer or the street sweeper why should people in the restaurant business be tipped if they are already making good wages it is not like their jobs are any more important than the ones above. People should work for wages and do the job they are paid to do. If not, get lost. Find another job. The next thing you know we will be having to tip the dentist and doctor and who knows who else. Another thing alot of people can't really afford the meal or the coffee they buy so to make someone feel obligated to tip, I think makes people maybe not go out and spend that little bit on themselves because of tip. Maybe I am wrong about this. I just feel people should be paid for the job they do and not depend on someone for a tip. To bad if they do a great job and don't get a tip that happens too in America and UK but if they are paid well for the job by a company then there is no worry about if they are going to get a tip. They will be more worried about there supervisor seeing that they are doing a good job and keeping that good paying job by preforming well at the job. Which in turn means great service for me.
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Post by noddy on Aug 21, 2005 8:19:59 GMT 1
The next thing you know we will be having to tip the dentist and doctor and who knows who else. i absolutely agree! you should all tip them!
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Post by mambo on Aug 24, 2005 23:28:00 GMT 1
Indeed, tips are not mandatory at all and service will still be the same if you don't tip. Unlike the US, they don't expect tips, but of course will welcome anything you leave behind.
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Post by mambo on Aug 24, 2005 23:37:22 GMT 1
One place to avoid in Zagreb is Hotel Ilica.
First time I made reservations by phone with the owner, confirmed it by fax, but when we showed up the girl at the reception knew nothing. She started pregnant doging about the owner to us ! As if we were interested ! The hotel was fully booked and she did not deem it necessary to help us find another hotel. It was more like 'well, off you go then, good luck, don't use our phone and don't expect us to help you'.
Second time we booked there they promised a three bedroom apartment, each room with bathroom, living room, small kitchen, satelite television, the works. This sounded perfect to us since we were with three and the price was also acceptable. When we got to see this 'apartment' it turned out to be 2 bedrooms (one room with two beds), matrasses were probably of the time of Tito so not fit for sleeping, 1 bathroom (to be reached via one of the bedrooms), no living room, no kitchen, no television. After a complaint at the reception they were able to tell us: 'if you don't like it you can find your way out, but we have your creditcard number and you will pay'. A little 'coercion' from our side made them change their mind, was better for their own health. But we ended up on the street again, searching at 10 in the evening for another hotel. Luckily we have our standard hotel, where we used to go before and just one phone call solved the problem.
In all, forget Hotel Ilica, you may be lucky, but you may also be in for a very 'special night and experience'.
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