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Post by Carol on Nov 27, 2009 22:21:55 GMT 1
I think it says: 1. we haven't changed our mind and 2. with regard to the other things you complained about, these things are covered in the application process for obtaining categorization. If you don't like it, you can always appeal - as long as you do it quickly enough.
(and reading between the lines, it also says "Don't bother me with this - take it up with the categorisation people who have procedures for dealing with these sort of issues")
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Post by upthevilla on Nov 28, 2009 11:07:54 GMT 1
Spot on interpretation.
No you ain't getting it We don't care find someone else to complain to
At least you got a reply..!!!!
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Post by zvekov on Nov 29, 2009 14:35:33 GMT 1
Maybe, it is a case of getting the law changed, and i guess that needs to go through parliament, and not the administrators(ministry) who'll just implement the law. It may be the case, a croatian mp, via an embassy needs to champion this cause for the foreigners(v unlikely) or we just have to wait for equal rights enforced by the eu (most likely)
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Post by mambo on Nov 29, 2009 21:06:43 GMT 1
Basically they say that they will not allow categorization because they consider that to be a business activity, which is not allowed in the building you were applying for. That area is considered residential area and therefore no business allowed.
Apparently you already complained once, but they see no reason to change their opinion since it is still a residential area and you still want to do business activities (I suppose renting out to tourists).
Of course you can complain again, as long as you do it within the legal time frame.
Few points automatically spring to mind:
1. The application was done on 9 June (basically beginning of the season) and the first reply was on 27th August............the end of the season. It took them over 2,5 months to react !!
2. The first appeal was written on 9 September and this time they were able to react on 16 October, which is a little over 1 month.
Makes you wonder if the first reaction was delayed on purpose, because this is not the first time I see applications handled extremely slow during the season / pre-season and much speedier during the off season.
If you want to get categorization for this appt or whatever it is I would suggest to search for any categorization in a residential area anywhere in Croatia. And unless I am mistaken all appts in Croatia are in residential areas, so it doesn't make sense to me at all.
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Post by upthevilla on Nov 30, 2009 13:51:40 GMT 1
Not that it is any consolation what so ever BUT
2 weeks before the law change we applied for and GOT catagorisation for our client via a d.o.o
In the same week as the law change we applied again for a different client in THE SAME BUILDING and were refused. We have had an appeal on going ever since.
Its only been 22 months ish,
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Post by pipp on Dec 16, 2010 18:29:03 GMT 1
thought this might be of interest to people on here not sure when this wil come into force though
Article 56 of the Treaty on the functioning of the EU (ex Article 49 TEC) states that restrictions on "freedom to provide services" within the Union are prohibited in respect of nationals of Member States who are established in a State other than that of the person for whom the services are intended. Any discrimination concerning the provision of services on the basis of nationality is prohibited directly by this Article (without the need of specific European legislation). Under Article 57 of the TFEU (ex Article 50 TEC), services shall be considered as such where they are normally provided for remuneration, in so far as they are not governed by the provisions relating to freedom of movement for goods, capital and persons. This Article specifies, however, that the provisions on the free movement of services cover all activities of an industrial or commercial character or of craftsmen and the activities of the professions.
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Post by captmokojumbie on May 5, 2011 14:26:05 GMT 1
Hi all Can someone tell me what the penalty is if a house is rented without categorization? You say the house was closed for 1 month how was it re opened?
What papers do we need to get it categorized and how long might it take. Our is a privately owned house and I believe listed as a holiday house?
Also, Is it possible to rent it via a Croatian long established Croatian company such as Villas Forum without us actualy categorising the houise?. Is It necessary to categorize then?
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Post by upthevilla on May 5, 2011 17:26:05 GMT 1
( Can someone tell me what the penalty is if a house is rented without categorization? ) = Minimum 5,000 euro fine. the house is sealed. all guests thrown out. The owners have to go to court and are not allowed entry to the property until they do and have paid the fine. ( What papers do we need to get it categorized and how long might it take. ) Ownesrhip papers, builing permissions, and lots of others You Will also need a company to check the electrics, issue saftey equipment.You will also need a Croatian citizen to get the licence as there is also a medical required. There is also a list of required furniture that the property must have to get the licence ( Our is a privately owned house and I believe listed as a holiday house? )This is very important and needs to be double checked before you procede any further and waste money. If you are a foreign citizen you will still have to open a Croatian company to get the licence (Also, Is it possible to rent it via a Croatian long established Croatian company such as Villas Forum .)AVOID THIS COMPANY AT ALL COST ( without us actualy categorising the houise?. ) NO ( Is It necessary to categorize then?) YES you still need the licence For more questions and answers go to my web site , The direct link to the catagorisation page is below www.istria-realestate4u.com/istriarealeste-facts/catagorisationofpropertyforrent.htmThere is NO getting around the licence if you intend to rent to tourists you have to have it. On our web site you will find our contact details. You can send a copy of your ownesrhip papers, where it says what the house was built for , purpose, We can then tell you if you will get the licence. If you need any help just let us know
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Post by pips on May 5, 2011 18:35:50 GMT 1
We are on a home exchange website this year-we have 2 exchanges this year using our apartment in Croatia while we go the other location-do I need to do anything as there will be no money involved?
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Post by keepsmiling on May 6, 2011 15:44:06 GMT 1
Pips, I've pm you.
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Post by em on May 7, 2011 18:25:38 GMT 1
You will also need a Croatian citizen to get the licence as there is also a medical required.
Is this a new requirement? We finally managed to get categorisation for our house towards the end of last year and didn't have to do this.
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Post by upthevilla on May 7, 2011 19:27:24 GMT 1
As far as i know it is still required, and was a requirement 4 weeks ago when we did the last one who got your licence for you. ps, sort of, is the answer to you question,send me a pm
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Post by investcroatia on May 17, 2011 13:20:52 GMT 1
Couple of questions
Is it likely there will be problems getting a rental permit for an old stone house by the sea if some neighbors already have legal permits?
Is the situation any easier for obtaining a permit if one of you are a Croatian citizen? My wife is.
All the best C
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Post by 3lions on May 17, 2011 16:51:30 GMT 1
lucky you and yes let her do everything, why not.
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Post by propertymanagement on Jun 5, 2011 1:05:06 GMT 1
Couple of questions Is it likely there will be problems getting a rental permit for an old stone house by the sea if some neighbors already have legal permits? Is the situation any easier for obtaining a permit if one of you are a Croatian citizen? My wife is. All the best C Yes, getting the rental permit for Croatian citizens is something you should do, as the rules are not that strict. If the house is built before 1968, then even the foreign citizens that bought properties through croatian company will have no problems with getting the rental licence. The problem is if the property is built after 1968 .... in such case most foreign owners (doesn't matter if they bought through the company or not) are facing big problems ... and usually they can't get the rental licence
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