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Post by ivetron on Mar 30, 2009 16:33:32 GMT 1
Dobar dan, I am trying to roughly estimate the value of some land that a relative has inherited. 4,800 sq meters of land with only olive trees and "vineyards". Inland and south of Sibenik and NE of Primosten. The question has come up as he doesn't live there, the title is in his grandmothers name and there is someone who is claiming ownership based on a "verbal" agreement made between grandma and a non-family party from the 1950's. I have an idea on the property value but am guessing. I know it's somewhat vague without seeing the exact location and surroundings but any help would be much appreciated.
Hvala!
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Post by mambo on Mar 30, 2009 17:03:31 GMT 1
Ivetron,
Can't give you an estimate on the value of the land, prices differ a lot. I have seen 2 euro/m2 for agricultural land and I have seen 10 euro.
The matter of the ownership can be settled quite easy. Verbal agreements sound very nice, but as long as it is not on paper I would not worry too much. One thing that is important however is to find out if this land did not belong to anyone else prior to the Tito time. I know that many families lost their land right after the war, but the current government is turning this back, which means if families can prove they were the owners prior to Tito they will get it back. The family of a friend of mine got back a lot of land near Sibenik and Zadar this way, so you may want to point that out to them.
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Post by Carol on Mar 30, 2009 17:18:24 GMT 1
you need to find out what the land is zoned for. if it can be built on then its worth an awful lot more than if it can't. If it can be built upon, then the next question is what can be built there, how big can it be and what can it be used for. Finally how close is it to the sea, what else is in the vicinity - unfinished concrete houses next door do not add value, and also how easy is it to bring the road, electricity and water to the land.
Even if it cannot be built on, the price will be much lower but will still vary depending on how good the agricultural land is and how accessible it is from the road. If you can only access it across someone else's land then its not worth thinking about.
You'll get an approximate idea soon though because you will get a 5% tax bill for it.
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Post by galant on Mar 30, 2009 21:22:24 GMT 1
if it has a road leading to it thats great . and a view then thats even better. you can build on it legally and has a view, then thats fantastic. if there is a natural water spring on the land...then thats really fantastic.
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Post by ivetron on Mar 31, 2009 18:23:51 GMT 1
Mambo, Carol & Galant, thanks for your replies. He doesn't live in Croatia and is considering whether to pay attorney fees to fight for this piece of land and this information is helpful.
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Post by mambo on Mar 31, 2009 18:42:46 GMT 1
ivetron, In that case he has to be careful if it is agricultural land. I know that the government has tried it many times before, but it seems that they are now getting serious about handing out fines to people who don't cultivate their land. The fines can go up to 15,000 Kuna and last week the embassy told me that this time they want to hand them out instantly. So, if he not living in Croatia and has no intention of using the land he may want to double check this before going after the land. Perhaps cutting a deal with the person who claims it may be a good option. Your guy owns the land and the other one can use it and have the benefits for a certain period.
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Post by riki on Apr 7, 2009 6:00:50 GMT 1
Carol - How do you know if land is in the building zone? and How do you know what you are allowed to build there? Do you need to submit plans or can you just knowck up a structure if it's in the building zone?
Mambo - I have quite a few fields that are pasture. Is this part of 'cultivated'? I have some other fields that are brmable covered. Could I get fined for this?
Thanks
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Post by Carol on Apr 7, 2009 10:07:00 GMT 1
Riki - you need to look at your local "General urbanistic plan" available from your local Municipality. (or ask an estate agent). There are various zones: residential, commercial, touristic, agricultural etc.
When you know you can build, you will need a permit or two (or three depending on what you are building and whether the area is under cultural heritage protection or not). Whatever you do, do not just knock up a building and hope for the best because its just inviting trouble and anyway the new building would be illegal and valueless should you ever need to sell.
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Post by riki on Apr 8, 2009 5:39:16 GMT 1
If you go to www.katastar.hr you can look up a specific lot number is your area. It also tells you usage and ownership etc. Would that usage be the zone? My estate agent said that wherever there was a building (ie footprint) you can build without permission. Is this true?
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Post by Madgolfer on Apr 8, 2009 8:35:53 GMT 1
Riki wrote;
"My estate agent said that wherever there was a building (ie footprint) you can build without permission. Is this true?"
ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! NO ITS NOT......
Many houses have been built on "non approved" land and using the excuse that there was already a building on it, or that there has been one bult there in the past will not cover you.
See Carols post above.
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