All d.o.o's must re-register in court before 31/10

[crojoe]

Yes, a lovely 5000 Kuna fine will be your reward for being late in the know. As it goes, Croatian taxation office and similar institutions are not very forgiving. On one hand if you are outside the country then I think a dispensation of grace would be available in most civil nations, but right now they are desperate for cash here, and this is there latest cash cow. It is not an exercise for information as it could have been done a lot cheaper and easier. Since they can't up the VAT/PDV without a revolt, next best option is to hit companies. It is estimated that there is like 200,000 registered companies, so do the math. Looking at the document I got back, I saw that at least 500 Kuna goes to the government. 250 Kuna goes to the court, another 100 Kuna for some stupid advert of sought and the rest to the notary. So, three institutions benefits, while I am out of pocket of 1600 Kuna in total. Ever seen this happen in any other country? Not to my knowledge.

Sadly, at this point I think your a bit to late, as Monday is a public holiday, but one never knows as maybe your notary or lawyer can swing a miracle and get it all done for you in a day. Technically it should take 1 week, but maybe if you apply by the 2nd, you'd be a-ok? I know mine only took 2 days (at least to do the paperwork) since they had to get some document from the court, then I just dropped into their office for 10 minutes, signed, stamped (company stamp), paid and they do the rest. Like Mr. madgolfer said, we too avoided the official English translator since we're almost citizens, done plenty of business with the notary and my gorgeous chunky looks (imagine Santa) touched hearts and minds.

[Madgolfer]

( "And when do I expect it to end?" )
and whats the answer. ? MG ?

Check the Aztec/Mi-an callenders, its probably in there somewhere.

[solitum]

Luckily we managed to finish the paperwork friday, our notary told us that 75% of companies still did not finish, so they where going to work both saturday and sunday.

[crojoe]

Oct 31, 2010 18:31:50 GMT 1 solitum said:

Luckily we managed to finish the paperwork friday, our notary told us that 75% of companies still did not finish, so they where going to work both saturday and sunday.

Wow, that’s a lot of companies. A field day with fine collection will commence shortly, but at least some of us made it in time. TX to whomever it was that warned us (was it you riki?) about this crazy requirement.

[Carol]

aligor - its 5000kn but its every 15 days not 50.

Question... it is getting the documents submitted at court that counts isn't it? Not accumulating them at the notaries offices?? So how does it help that notaries worked yesterday and today when the courts are closed until tuesday?

[mambo]

You can also so say it differently.
What kind of government creates a law, making re-registration of MANY companies necessary and turn it into a rush rush kind of deal, giving every company very little time to comply.

This is what we normally call 'bad government' and that is what it is. It is an extra taxation, set up in such a way that many companies will not be able to comply and thus will receive hefty fines.

I wonder what will happen if anyone would take this law to Strassbourg. My guess is that Croatia would lose, big time.

[crojoe]

Or Mambo what country would give it's people a vote on EU accession only after signing of agreement? Something it seems the local Gov. is planning to do. Who needs Brussels when we're already got our own local version... peasants tow the line or: get fined, put in prison, tax threats and inspections or just shut you down.

[usplitu]

I have been told by a lawyer that the fines will be issued per company and per director, so every fifteen days late a company would have to pay 5,000 plus each director personally would have to pay 5,000.

Also, apparently the notaries were able to work today (and all weekend) because the end date was the 31st which fell on a weekend and so it was moved to the following business day, which was Tuesday 2nd as Monday 1st was a national holiday.

Hope everyone got finished in time, I was also told that over 70% of companies have not completed the registration process in time.

[crojoe]

It gets worse and worse every time I hear about this requirement. Gone from 30 days to 15 days then a fine, and now as you say it's a fine for each director. Makes you want to go out and hang yourself. I am actually amazed that the business community even put up with this requirement without so much as a heart beat. If I had a voice and was a full blown citizen I would have noised abroad this stupid bit of legislation. Maybe this is why 70% of companies haven't complied, either they didn't hear about it or they will just refuse to pay or know that it will be impossible for the government to collect? Maybe we "do-gooders" who try and do everything by the book are just kidding ourselves. Time will tell. I mean, if they lower the pension money by 10's of Kunas people get all upset, if they try and raise taxes people get upset, raise the price of bread and strikes, so what happened this time? Lastly, why did they make it that a company with 2 or more owners on the books has to register while a company with only one person does not? What’s the difference? Do they figure two or more owners will part with 1600 Kuna easier?

[riki]

Luckily I got this done for my company ages ago. However, due to the backlog at the notary my small matter of moving my company address to where I live was completely ignored. As a result, my application to renew my work permit was late. Guess what? 5000 kuna fine!! Ha ha, they always get you somehow.

[mambo]

I am hearing stories that the compliance date has been changed into 31st December. Is this correct ? Have some friends in Holland who did not even know the law existed. Obviously they did not make the date of 31st October.

If anyone has information about the changed date, let me know, it may save them a lot of money ?

[crojoe]

Nov 3, 2010 18:18:11 GMT 1 mambo said:

I am hearing stories that the compliance date has been changed into 31st December. Is this correct ? Have some friends in Holland who did not even know the law existed. Obviously they did not make the date of 31st October.

If anyone has information about the changed date, let me know, it may save them a lot of money ?

That would be a kind thing for the Gov. to do, actually a humane thing for them to do. What is next, decide the fee was too expensive and lower it? Ha!

[mambo]

Apparently for some reason this guy wrote it in an article:

www.poslovnipuls.com/2010/10/16/tvrtka-vise-vlasnika-registracija/

But it is possible he made a mistake of course.