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Post by mickanddeb09 on Mar 14, 2011 8:49:36 GMT 1
Some time ago, e came across an abandoned. derelict, closed-down Hotel/Motel near Senj. We had a wander around and looked in the windows etc. It has the most AMAZING views... anyone else seen it? "Motel Vratnik" I have searched the net for information on this place but with no luck. Any ideas on how one could get some info on it? deb  |
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Post by Carol on Mar 14, 2011 12:27:47 GMT 1
with a view to owning it one day?
You could ask the neighbours who owns it. Or ask a local estate agent. If its as good as you say, then it won't be a secret and someone will know.
Or go to the katastar and work out which one it is from the katastar maps and then take a note of the katastar code (you will need to catch the staff in a good mood for help with this). Whilst there ask the katastar people who owns it according to their record (although there is a good chance that it will be out of date). Make sure to get all the associated katastar numbers.
Then you could go to the commercial court and find out who the owner is. Then hire a local lawyer to trace them.
Now for the but... but you will 99.9% likely be wasting your time. Clean properties which have good commercial potential like this do not sit abandoned for nothing. My best guess is that the title is not clean and my second best guess guess is that there are multiple owners and at least one does not want to part with is heritage.
During the boom we had people who spotted properties like this and who would ask us to help track down the owners and negotiate a sale. We fell for it a couple fo times and did a lot of unpaid work for no gain. All you need in the end is one owner who doesn't want to sell, or an ultimately illegal property and the whole thing is a waste of time. I bet someone has already seen this property circa 2004 and asked the question you just asked.
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Post by crojoe on Mar 14, 2011 14:25:48 GMT 1
Yep, plenty of such properties about, even here in Zagreb. I mean, there are some run down buildings right near the centre of town and train station that if purchased and built upon would be prime. Just no one knows or cares to know who owns it. Then you got loads of property owned by the church, and they love to collect riches on earth where rust and dust corrupts, and thieves break in and steal.
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Post by Madgolfer on Mar 16, 2011 9:24:47 GMT 1
We have an abandoned school near us that has sat empty for many years. Its owned by the local authority and even they cannot clean up the papers in six years!!!!
Would make a great hotel if only........LOL
You might even be better to look at building from new. It takes no longer and can even be cheaper in the long run.
If you find the Senj property on google earth and send us the co ordinates I will see what we can find our for you.
Dont forget that beer next time you are over.
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Post by Ribaric on Mar 16, 2011 10:28:08 GMT 1
Judging by what is written here and my experience of Varazdin, it appears there are plenty of properties which have multiple owners and where at least one cannot be found or has died and left their share to several offspring - some of whom don't even know about it. It's something which needs fixing from above but don't hold your breath.
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Post by jczadar on Mar 16, 2011 11:25:50 GMT 1
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Post by mickanddeb09 on Mar 16, 2011 11:51:23 GMT 1
Jczadar.... After clicking on your link, no, sorry, that's not it. Madgolfer.... After google-earthing it, and a few "discussions" over which road we took, finally found it. yaaaaaaaaaaaaay! the co-ordinates are...44*58'42.05"N 14*59'15.42"E (if that makes any sense, I just copied what was down the bottom of the page when i was close enough) After searching Vratnik. oh, and * = degrees ;D Carol, to buy this would be such a pipedream! I grew up in a hotel and have worked in the industry all my life, it's right up my alley, but no, too unrealistic. The place intrigued me, and curiosity has the best of me BUT you nerver know  PS. MG, would definately be interseted in a seed swap with Mrs MG. Will be in contact before we come over and see if she wants/needs any seeds in particular that I maybe able to get from here. |
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Post by Madgolfer on Mar 16, 2011 12:18:34 GMT 1
Sent you a PM
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Post by gmh on Mar 16, 2011 14:35:01 GMT 1
I think I know the place. On a hillside just off the road that takes you up from Senj over the hills towards the motorway right ? Fairly large place.    |
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Post by Carol on Mar 16, 2011 14:41:49 GMT 1
that place looks lovely! Its such a shame that great places like these aren't being used
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Post by mambo on Mar 16, 2011 20:08:21 GMT 1
Just South of Senj there is an old hotel on the coastal road. During the summer there are lots of local people who park their cars when they go for a swim.
Have no idea whether it is for sale or not, but one thing I do know for sure..........if you buy it you will go bankrupt within one year.
Along the coastal road South of Senj there are hardly any tourists. Over the years I have seen all the local bars/restaurants and small hotels/apartments close down, none of them had any business whatsoever.
If you have money to burn I would buy the place and turn it into a nice house !
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Post by mickanddeb09 on Mar 16, 2011 20:58:05 GMT 1
Mambo, YES that is it. The views from there are CRAZY! Have you been there? Thanks for the heads-up. Thanks MG |
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Post by miki2502989 on Mar 16, 2011 22:21:41 GMT 1
this looks great.is it near the sea?did you get any info on it?
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Post by gmh on Mar 17, 2011 8:49:18 GMT 1
Mambo, YES that is it. The views from there are CRAZY! Have you been there? Thanks for the heads-up. Thanks MG So it's not motel vratnik, which i posted pictures of ?  |
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Post by mickanddeb09 on Mar 17, 2011 10:49:22 GMT 1
GMH....Yes! sorry, I was rushing this morning, it is DEFINATELY it. Thankyou for the pic's. We took a few too when we were there. They are in Panoramio and Photo-bucket (i think). Have you been there gmh? Thanks guys for all the feedback. |
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