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Post by mh on Oct 3, 2012 0:34:01 GMT 1
I wish to present a true and valid information to everybody here - there is no issue with "dormant" companies as such, it is the issue of using the company structures and the commercial law and taxation law arrangements to effectively support a "hobby" (activities we are all so important to us, but sadly do not bring any real money ...) This is the real push behind the "dormant" companies ... It you do not earn, if you do not claim tax deduction, if you do not use the company for a tax advantage - please, keep it!
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Post by crojoe on Oct 3, 2012 0:42:05 GMT 1
I wish to present a true and valid information to everybody here - there is no issue with "dormant" companies as such, it is the issue of using the company structures and the commercial law and taxation law arrangements to effectively support a "hobby" (activities we are all so important to us, but sadly do not bring any real money ...) This is the real push behind the "dormant" companies ... It you do not earn, if you do not claim tax deduction, if you do not use the company for a tax advantage - please, keep it! This is not really the issue, the issue is the government wants to close dormant companies (and I understand they are working on this right now), so if you purchased a house years back and never used your company other then to purchase the house then your company is in effect dormant, so could be closed from some accounts on your behalf. If this is true, then one could be in a difficult position concerning ownership of the house. But then again, I have no first hand experience or anyone to bounce this info off. All I hear is what my accountant has told me plus a few others.
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Post by mh on Oct 3, 2012 6:13:39 GMT 1
Well, it is clear you have been involved in a "fraud" or "scam" of some sort. Get yourself clean out of the mess, that is the best advise I can make. Pay your fair share!
I am only wandering why foreigners do not cheat in their own countries instead of coming here and ripping of honest Croats of their land?
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Post by Carol on Oct 3, 2012 7:00:00 GMT 1
Well, it is clear you have been involved in a "fraud" or "scam" of some sort. Get yourself clean out of the mess, that is the best advise I can make. Pay your fair share! I am only wandering why foreigners do not cheat in their own countries instead of coming here and ripping of honest Croats of their land? Who has been on here long enough to remember Ghostwriter, Iraq and EMIZ? It looks like Ghost is back with his/her unreasonable deductions, sometimes contradictory statements and always inflammatory remarks. Calling Iraq and EMIZ....! (I might start logging in more often again just to watch the fireworks!)
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Post by Carol on Oct 3, 2012 7:02:47 GMT 1
mh - please tell us about how Croatia is being stolen by the foreigners and the EU only wants Croatia to join so that EU MEPS can visit the beaches.
Or have you replaced these idiocies with the new mantra that I'm told is current in Croatia ATM viz "the foreigner must pay more".
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Post by crojoe on Oct 3, 2012 8:47:26 GMT 1
Well, it is clear you have been involved in a "fraud" or "scam" of some sort. Get yourself clean out of the mess, that is the best advise I can make. Pay your fair share! I am only wandering why foreigners do not cheat in their own countries instead of coming here and ripping of honest Croats of their land? Ha MH, you don't seem to be aware of how things are done in Croatia or Hrvatska. The biggest scammers are those on Croatian local news every day (and they are not foreigners), those that own some of the biggest Croatian firms and political parties. But, it's not just them, many small firms all practice shady business practices. I presume you have not seen the list of people published some months back that had all the people that owed taxes to the Croatian Government. Well, 99.9% where Croats or Croat firms. What you don't seem to understand is that Western Foreigners on the most part want to pay their taxes, want to live by the law. Most of us where not raised to try and screw the government, to avoid at all costs to pay our taxes or avoid paying a person their worth and on time. In fact we find it very strange that Croatia is managed the way it is, but then again, we did not setup this system, we did not vote in the people of power, we did not vote to join the EU, we did not take out billions in loans. That was all down to you dear Croats. Once you open your eyes to this fact then you might see clearly that most of the problems at hand today are due to mismanagement by Croats. This is not to say the "West" is perfect in any way (it isn't), but you always seem to harp a nationalistic tune when you post here, playing the blame game. I can clearly see you don't even understand the position of the foreign home owner as to why they legally purchased a home using a company, about what taxes one pays or why they get a tax rebate on using a company (which are the same rules for Croats). Do you know about the situation many Croats face today on registering their homes which they built illegally (so they would not have to pay taxes)? A deadline is looming by December, put in place by your government. Is that a scam? Is hiring Bosnian workers to build Croat houses and pay them in cash a scam? Is the practice of hiring students on minimum wage then double or tripling the money into their accounts and have then hand it back in cash so one only has to pay 17.5% pdv instead of 45% pdv a scam? This is a very common practice in Croatia. How about the practice of hiring people to work in supermarkets for 3 months then firing them so the company does not have to pay healthcare? For years many private Croats home owners on the coast did not pay the compulsory tourist tax. Do Croats from say Zagreb pay tourist tax when they go to their holiday house on the coast? Many do not, but it is required by law! That is just a small list of SCAMS by Croats, or is a scam by a Croat not a scam but an intellectual maneuver?
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Post by Madgolfer on Oct 3, 2012 10:51:40 GMT 1
Dont rise to mh comments guys. He or she is just trying to wind us all up.
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Post by Ribaric on Oct 3, 2012 11:15:14 GMT 1
Who has been on here long enough to remember Ghostwriter, Iraq and EMIZ? It looks like Ghost is back with his/her unreasonable deductions, sometimes contradictory statements and always inflammatory remarks. Calling Iraq and EMIZ....! (I might start logging in more often again just to watch the fireworks!) Certainly has the aroma of the phantom lunatic lady from California about it. MG has the right idea.
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Post by crojoe on Oct 3, 2012 12:13:35 GMT 1
Dont rise to mh comments guys. He or she is just trying to wind us all up. TX madgolfer! Such retoric does wind me up. Normally it comes from the likes of farmers and nationalistic types... simple folk!
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Post by mh on Oct 4, 2012 0:07:05 GMT 1
I can only regret the level of missunderstanding, cry for interest self preservation, deception and haterate frank and honest discussion had created.
However, please let us be crystal clear - the foreigners are here to play by the rules and respect host country. The Croats are here to provide friendly environment every person should enjoy equally. The fact that Croats are more equal then others - well that is exectly how it should be. It is the same in any other country.
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Post by Carol on Oct 4, 2012 8:10:10 GMT 1
Troll!
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Post by crojoe on Oct 4, 2012 9:44:57 GMT 1
I can only regret the level of missunderstanding, cry for interest self preservation, deception and haterate frank and honest discussion had created. However, please let us be crystal clear - the foreigners are here to play by the rules and respect host country. The Croats are here to provide friendly environment every person should enjoy equally. The fact that Croats are more equal then others - well that is exectly how it should be. It is the same in any other country. Yahn! MH on another one of his ego trips, nationalistic tip-bits for the day. At least I won't "cry" over it or struggle for "self preservation"! Yea yea, Croats deserve the world, they are the best at everything, they are gods in Gods form and Croatia is the center of the world. OK, I'm off for a good strong cup of espresso!
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Post by mh on Oct 4, 2012 10:13:20 GMT 1
I can only regret the level of missunderstanding, cry for interest self preservation, deception and haterate frank and honest discussion had created. However, please let us be crystal clear - the foreigners are here to play by the rules and respect host country. The Croats are here to provide friendly environment every person should enjoy equally. The fact that Croats are more equal then others - well that is exectly how it should be. It is the same in any other country. Yahn! MH on another one of his ego trips, nationalistic tip-bits for the day. At least I won't "cry" over it or struggle for "self preservation"! Yea yea, Croats deserve the world, they are the best at everything, they are gods in Gods form and Croatia is the center of the world. OK, I'm off for a good strong cup of espresso! Thanks. I hope your recent findings will be followed by prompt 5% RETT payment with the compliments from the Treasury.
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Post by sandybear124 on Oct 4, 2012 22:16:14 GMT 1
MH, not sure what point you are trying to make - half of what you write doesn't seem to make any sense.
Let me assure you that we have made our contribution to the Croatian economy. Charges for setting up a Company, 5% RETT on the purchase of 2 properties, one of them sold on (not at a profit!) and the next purchaser has paid their 5%. 1000 + Euro to an accountant for the past 6 years. Tourist tax, bank charges, Chamber of Commerce fees, tradesmen we have employed, and the list goes on. We then support the local businesses ie. supermarkets and restaurants. Not to mention the two solicitors employed when purchasing and selling. That is our contribution, can you explain what these two solicitors might contribute when on each occassion we have seen them they have asked if we want to pay in CASH?
By the way, we have never had a tax rebate and ended up paying more tax than necessary because of a mistake by one of the greedy Croatian solicitors, we were than told by the accountant it would cost more to challenge this than to just pay up!
Suggest you take off those rose tinted glasses.
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Post by mh on Oct 4, 2012 23:54:02 GMT 1
Very pathetic, Sandy... And untrue. I suggest you to apply for help at Caritas.
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