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Post by gmh on Nov 16, 2012 10:05:31 GMT 1
So Gotovina was freed a little while ago and I already heard car horns honking and people waving flags outside.
I predict he will now return to Croatia as a Hero, be welcomed into the folds of HDZ and end up with some kind of political position some time in the next 5 years.
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Post by crojoe on Nov 16, 2012 10:15:38 GMT 1
So Gotovina was freed a little while ago and I already heard car horns honking and people waving flags outside. I predict he will now return to Croatia as a Hero, be welcomed into the folds of HDZ and end up with some kind of political position some time in the next 5 years. Seems today if you spent some time in prison, have a criminal record, extorted money, bribed, dealt in corruption then one is a wonderful candidate to run for a governmental job, be it mayor, minister or even PM. |
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Post by Madgolfer on Nov 16, 2012 10:35:10 GMT 1
Maybe just what HR needs, someone who is respected (I assume?) for his efforts on behalf of his country.
Does he have political ambitions?
Does he have any non military experience?
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Post by gmh on Nov 16, 2012 10:43:11 GMT 1
He doesn't have any non military experience. Just a lot of military experience. Minister for Defence then for him.
This is also not the first time he's been jailed and then freed. Apparently he served time in France before returning to Croatia during the war.
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Post by crojoe on Nov 16, 2012 10:50:43 GMT 1
He doesn't have any non military experience. Just a lot of military experience. Minister for Defence then for him. This is also not the first time he's been jailed and then freed. Apparently he served time in France before returning to Croatia during the war. Seems he was into borrowing jewel (without asking) at one time and a bit of a thug (when in France) then a military man, which helped mold him into the guy he is today (to some a "hero"). He has a checkered past (outside being a war hero). But, if it makes people happy then all the best. Just not sure if he would be right guy for a governmental position (although we all live and learn). |
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Post by mh on Nov 16, 2012 11:11:45 GMT 1
Shame on all of you! Now when greatest Croatian hero is free I hope he will finally get his head post of Revenue and Tax Collection Office and finish the job he started in 1991.
God and the Croats!
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Post by jure on Nov 16, 2012 11:28:05 GMT 1
Prije 20-ak godina Vukovar je pao
Ja još nisam bio rođen i o tome ništa nisam znao
Ali sada znam sve, ko je bio kada i gdje
Ko je to mojoj Hrvatskoj rušio sne
Znam za heroje naše,da za Hrvatsku su život dali
Za Hrvatsku našu ti heroji su pali
Da sada ja , i prijatelji moji
Slobodno šećemo i da se
nitko ne boji
Znam za Blagu Zadru i njegovog sina
Znam i koliko je ljudi poginulo zbog mina
Znam koliko je suza proliveno i ljudi ubijeno
I zašto bi se to oprostilo i bilo skriveno?
I čitam povijest našu kada je bilo "brat uz brata"
Od zajedništva tog,nije bila jača nijedna granata
I kada sve to čitam,odmah budem jako tužan
I znam da im je ovaj narod nešto ostao dužan
Hvala vam od srca heroji, to zaboravit vam neću
Za Vukovar i vas zapalit ću svijeću
I molit ću Boga još samo jednu stvar
Da mi vašu slobodu pokloni na dar
A sada dođimo do teme cajke!
Jer neki ljudi misle da su priče iz rata bajke
Neki kažu da ih slušaju jer mogu pjevati i skakati
Pogledajte film o Vukovaru pa će te plakati
I zašto im je teško jednu svijeću zapaliti
A nije im teško po klubovima naše domoljublje blatiti
I dragi bože pošalji im malo pameti
Valjda će onda i oni Vukovar shvatiti
Šta će vam Mile Kitić ili Ceca
Zbog njenog muža ubijana su i djeca
Ali slušajte ih samo , to je vaše "hvala"
Hrvatskoj majci, koja sinove je dala
Čuvaj ovo sveto tlo sačinjeno od krvi i muke
Jer za ovu domovinu su se borile samo hrabre ruke
Kada se Markač i Gotovina vrate
zasjat ce suza u oku za moje Hrvate
Na kraju Bože samo jedno te molim
Čuvaj moju Hrvatsku jer najviše je volim"
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Post by crojoe on Nov 16, 2012 12:13:20 GMT 1
Shame on all of you! Now when greatest Croatian hero is free I hope he will finally get his head post of Revenue and Tax Collection Office and finish the job he started in 1991. God and the Croats! "God and the Croats!"... you mean Croats then God! But, no shame. I am that I am in Croatia with no help from the government or that much from actual Croats (except for a few normal folks out there not distorted by nationalistic pride or corruption or a sob story). |
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Post by quest on Nov 16, 2012 12:41:59 GMT 1
Maybe just what HR needs, someone who is respected (I assume?) for his efforts on behalf of his country. Does he have political ambitions? Does he have any non military experience? I respected him before mostly because he didn't meddle into politics, so if he's smart he will stick to it. It would be a shame if he now ended up in prison for a simple thing like doing someone a favor while in political position, which could happen considering his total inexperience. |
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Post by aussiecro on Nov 16, 2012 13:17:49 GMT 1
If he is smart he wouldn't touch politics with a barge pole...hero to zero if he did...name me one respected politician? Because of the system he would end up powerless and have to toe the line.
Gotovina is a hero. Defended his country. If anyone should be locked up its Bush and Blair..instigators of war's, not defenders.
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Post by crojoe on Nov 16, 2012 15:07:28 GMT 1
If he is smart he wouldn't touch politics with a barge pole...hero to zero if he did...name me one respected politician? Because of the system he would end up powerless and have to toe the line. Gotovina is a hero. Defended his country. If anyone should be locked up its Bush and Blair..instigators of war's, not defenders. I second that motion, especially for Bush & Blair. Blair was actually doing a lot of good for normal folks till he started beating around the Bush. |
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Post by Madgolfer on Nov 16, 2012 16:27:11 GMT 1
name me one respected politician?
Castro (ex general) seems to be loved by his fellow inmates.
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Post by Madgolfer on Nov 16, 2012 16:28:48 GMT 1
Shame on all of you! Now when greatest Croatian hero is free I hope he will finally get his head post of Revenue and Tax Collection Office and finish the job he started in 1991. God and the Croats! I hope that I am reading this post wrong? Perhaps some will explain what mh means by this? |
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Post by aussiecro on Nov 16, 2012 21:54:28 GMT 1
It is a rather unusal post..think its been lost in translation, or at least I hope that is the case.
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Post by mh on Nov 16, 2012 22:32:15 GMT 1
Nothing was lost in translation! After finalising our dealings with Hungarians, Turks, Venetians, Austrians and Serbs, it is time to get property market and tax collection under Croatian control.
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