Vlasnicki List

[ZAD]

Quick question: I have been waiting to have my name on the vlasnicki list for a few years now. In May of this year, my lawyer spoke to the 'chief-of-staff' at the local courts and was promised it would be fast tracked. I have paid the 250 kuna fee for the transfer of the property into my name. The question is this, is there a central office in Zagreb that I can email regarding this? I am sick to death of being fobbed off with excuses at a local level. "We're very busy" etc.

Thanks in advance.
BTW the house has all necessary paperwork.

[123456]

Since you have paid, you should have received a paper with a stamp, stating a case number, usually starting with a Z then dash.
Take your Z number and look up your status here: e-izvadak.pravosudje.hr/pretraga-statusa-z-predmeta.htm

Then if you still need to contact them, I found these email addresses from this website: e-izvadak.pravosudje.hr/home.htm
When I clicked on "contact" for Zagreb, my Outlook opened with this address as the main to: [e-mail]
And this one in the "cc" field: [e-mail]

Hope this helps.

[ZAD]

Thanks for that.

I entered my Z number and the only listing is a rejection back in 2010, which I knew about. The property had a financial charge on it (a law suit between the 2 owners). This was settled by me to allow the sale to go ahead. My original lawyer forgot to submit this paperwork with the purchase papers. My second lawyer obtained the proof and submitted this to the court. I was told earlier this year that everything was now clear, and a judge had signed off on the ownership transfer, but this doesn't show up on that website.

I will now email the government, the council, the army, Strasbourg, my MEP and whoever else it takes to wake these idiots up

Thanks again,
ZAD

[Carol]

I know nothing of your individual case, but I have heard people say that their paperwork seems to be taking a lot longer than anyone can expect. Ok, Croatia might take 18 months to do what other civil servants might do in an hour, but there is something wrong if its going on 2 or 3 years.

Every single time that someone has said to me, what you wrote in your original post, we find out later that there is fraud somewhere. Usually its with the lawyer lying either about having submitted all the paperwork or lying by omission when he subsequently withdrew the paperwork or hasn't told you about a dispute.

I've seen a lot of cases like this and every single time, someone has been keeping a key fact from the foreign owner. I hope your case is the exception.

[ZAD]

Thanks Carol,
I actually received a letter a couple of days ago, saying everything was in order and showing me 1/1 on the owner's list. I have to attend the court office next month to sign, and the house will be in my name...after NINE years.

[istria786]

Congratulations. I really think we should start an expat association with an annual award like the one at peros bar for who had the worst paperwork nightmare in Croatia be it buying a house, importing a car, starting a business, wild camping, staying longer than 90 days ........what are we doing here ...lol. By the way you can skip the lawyer and take papers / contract straight to court office yourself (open around 1qam) and ask for vlasnicki list if all in order.

[ZAD]

Not into ex-pat clubs. I don't see the point of moving to a foreign country and hanging around with people from back home. If I wanted to do that, I would've moved to Spain

[istria786]

Well I was only thinking of one or maximum two evenings a year lol!

[ZAD]

Oct 25, 2013 18:25:51 GMT 1 istria786 said:

Well I was only thinking of one or maximum two evenings a year lol!

Learn the language and absorb the culture, then you will be accepted. And only then will you begin to love Croatia for what it really is: Not the sea, mountains and food; but the friends you never knew you had.

[Carol]

Lovely idea, Zad but there is a place for what Istria786 is suggesting. Sometimes, its good just to be able to breathe a sigh of relief and realise that you don't have to monitor your speech for an hour or two and that you are with a bunch of people who can emphathise with your attempts to bridge the cultural gap. It doesn't mean that you don't try the rest of the time, but its nice to have a night off once in a while.

If I still lived in Croatia and it was being held any reasonable distance from me, then i'd have been up for coming to your get together, Istria786.

[newlifeincroatia]

Istria786 I'm with you! It's good to get together with like minds and have a laugh! I belong to International Womens Club of Zagreb for just that reason, to connect with people from my former home and have an hour or two of laughs and share stories, then go back to experiencing more of life in Croatia!

[ZAD]

I bet you don't. I bet you meet up and complain about this, that and t'other, and how difficult things are in Croatia compared with back home. Then you all try and drain each other of information regarding new laws, before toddling off home having tried to convince your ex-pat friends (new pats) what a wonderful life you're living in Croatia, and how you wish you'd made the move years ago ... #justsaying

[crojoe]

Oct 31, 2013 22:05:24 GMT 1 ZAD said:

I bet you don't. I bet you meet up and complain about this, that and t'other, and how difficult things are in Croatia compared with back home. Then you all try and drain each other of information regarding new laws, before toddling off home having tried to convince your ex-pat friends (new pats) what a wonderful life you're living in Croatia, and how you wish you'd made the move years ago ... #justsaying

Most of those in the ladies club have a pretty settled life, wives of diplomats or the wealthy, not really retirees or people just starting out and trying to crack the Croatian business world. They are nice bunch of people, but the club is a social club. They do a bit for charity each year, help promote cultural exchange, go on tours and meet about once a month.

[Ribaric]

Ex-pat life in Hong Kong is pretty much as ZAD suggests. English language schools, local services, social networks, even officially recognised state laws and minor courts. It's like a mix between London and New York but with sunshine. You have to reflect on your reasons for being an ex-pat before making a judgement about how your adopted country regards you.
I have a big decision to make soon... what to do?

[ZAD]

No, but seriously. I'm being cantankerous. I am in full agreement with "international" organisations that serve to benefit the society of their host country, I just get agitated with people who *need* to be surrounded by people from their home country, and believe me, I know quite a few.

Edit: I was in New Zealand a couple of years ago. I joined a UK ex-pat forum because I had questions regarding ferries. I was amazed by the amount of requests for social gatherings from the English. It's not like New Zealanders speak a foreign language. yet the Brits are the first to jump down the throats of people who come to the UK and fail to integrate.