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Post by Culchie on Jan 24, 2005 14:06:07 GMT 1
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Post by Guest on Jan 25, 2005 12:04:19 GMT 1
Culchie, Not that it's not hilarious but what does that have to do with Croatia??
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Post by Culchie on Jan 25, 2005 12:14:26 GMT 1
Not a lot really, although we do have quite a few Americans who like to talk about freedom of speech, so it just rang a bell .... and thought they might like an interactive experience with the 'leader' in "The fight for freedom and justice".
A little bit of satire.
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Post by LoveU2 on Jan 25, 2005 23:42:05 GMT 1
Not a lot really, although we do have quite a few Americans who like to talk about freedom of speech, so it just rang a bell .... and thought they might like an interactive experience with the 'leader' in "The fight for freedom and justice". A little bit of satire. Loved it Culchie. My husband and I both got a laugh! ;D Thanks for sharing! Who cares that it does not have anything to do with Croatia.... some of you people are so anal!!!
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Post by pacificstar on Jan 26, 2005 1:55:17 GMT 1
I was wondering since Culchie brought it up what does Freedom mean to you all?
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Post by tito on Jan 26, 2005 4:17:33 GMT 1
freedom from or freedom to be?
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Post by Canadian on Jan 26, 2005 5:10:55 GMT 1
Freedom does not exist- you always have to pray to someone or other for protection
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Post by tito on Jan 26, 2005 6:13:06 GMT 1
unless you do it to them first, which is what America is up to at the moment!
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Post by pacificstar on Jan 26, 2005 6:42:10 GMT 1
The meaning of Freedom from the Webster's Dictionary: the quality or state of being free. a: the absenece of necessity, coercion or contraint in choice or action b: liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another. Another word for Freedom is Independence or Liberty.
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Post by pacificstar on Jan 26, 2005 6:43:28 GMT 1
I ment what does Freedom mean to you.
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Post by pacificstar on Jan 26, 2005 6:44:56 GMT 1
Canada, Who do you have to pray to for Freedom?
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Post by pacificstar on Jan 26, 2005 6:46:26 GMT 1
Tito, America is doing what?
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Post by Mark Cognevich on Jan 26, 2005 17:43:43 GMT 1
Culchie I played it for about an hour Thanks I enjoyed it.
Canadian Freedom does not come cheep but you are free to do almost anything you want to do or say.
Pacificstar Freedom is something we all should hold dear. Being free to do are say anything you want. Be anything you want to be.
Tito We Americans did not start anything I think they drove some plans into some building first. And that was not the first time they did something to America. So how long was we supposed to sit by while they killed thousands of people before we did something about it.
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Post by Loveu2 on Jan 26, 2005 19:26:43 GMT 1
Culchie I played it for about an hour Thanks I enjoyed it. Canadian Freedom does not come cheep but you are free to do almost anything you want to do or say. Pacificstar Freedom is something we all should hold dear. Being free to do are say anything you want. Be anything you want to be. Tito We Americans did not start anything I think they drove some plans into some building first. And that was not the first time they did something to America. So how long was we supposed to sit by while they killed thousands of people before we did something about it. Sorry, have to disagree with you here. The people of Iraq had nothing to do with planes going into the tower or pentagon or field. If anything you could blame so many other countries, Saudi's, afgans, libya, but no we went to Iraq because we have a president that wants to avenge his father. We have that crazy little Korean threaten us with nuclear power and we go after IRAQ! Please! Our President is a cowboy and a hoodlum! I never voted for him or his father! The apple does not fall far from the tree! Plus both Bush men have ties to the Saudi's they have many transactions! But Back to FREEDOM. Freedom to me is being able to wear my hair long and flowing in the streets of a city without being smacked by a man for showing my hair. Freedom is not being accused by my husband of a crime and then being stoned or burned to death in the middle of a village when I am innocent. Freedom is not having to be forced into prostitution to help my family or be sold into prositution by my family! Freedom is speaking my mind and not worry that my tongue might be cut out! Freedom is praying to the God I want, without fear of being imprisioned and tortured. We people of Europe and America are spoiled rotten. We sit and complain about stupid stuff! We complain about not having enough varieties of food or not enough convienence food, paying to high a tax, not being able to find clothes or products we want. I or WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!! There are People being starved, persecuted, tortured! There are people that would happily take our place in the world and never complain again in their lives! I guess most of all I am THANKFUL FOR FREEDOM!!!! LoveU2
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Post by tito on Jan 27, 2005 6:34:04 GMT 1
America is actively defending its freedom to live the way it wants to by seeking out those who wish to destroy it and destroying them first, but in doing so it is creating a new generation of terrorists whose intensity to get revenge will multiply tenfold untill America may itself find that it is fighting a losing battle against too many enemies around the world. More people around the world have a burning hatred of America and Britain than they do of Croatia, because they probably have never heard of it, so in Croatia you are freer from a civilian terrorist attack than in London or New York. Also, with technology advancing at an ever increasing rate it is only a matter of time before the terrorists get a hold of something that can create an even greater hell than sept 11.
To suggest that America did not start anything would seem a little bit simple when you consider how much America is involved in world politics on the surface with Bush, and on the darker side with the CIA. America abandoned the isolationist policy a long time ago. Also if you consider how much American culture strangles the living blood out of the world then may be you have to expect a fanatical reply.
The problem being freedom means different things to different people and different things to different nation states, and if I feel that it is my freedom to play loud music then you may feel that it is encroaching your freedom not to listen to it.
In Croatia I may feel free to express my national identity where those who live there may be offended by it.
viva tito!
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