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Post by croam on May 5, 2005 16:53:25 GMT 1
whats the difference between serbs from montenegro and serbs from serbia proper?
I'm confused because I've read that the majority from montenegro consider themselves montenegrins.
I met a girl whos parents are from there...she was born elsewhere...and i'm ofcroatian heritage...wondering what issues there could be. I know montenegrins were sort of under the thumb of belgrade as well.... Anyone? Anyone?
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Post by croam on May 5, 2005 16:58:10 GMT 1
OLD GUEST.... help me out with this one.....
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Post by Old Guest on May 5, 2005 17:46:15 GMT 1
www.montenet.org/history/podgskup.htmThis page explains exactly what you ask ... but also look about other stuff on site too ... I just gave it "glance" and it seams to be very objective. I am not some expert on Montenegro's history (my knowledge can't compare to one you can find on this site) ...
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Post by croam on May 5, 2005 19:00:44 GMT 1
thanks for the site OldGuest...very informative....
still pretty general as far as the ethnic similarities/differences/rivalry or lack thereof...
I was just wondering if they considered themselves montenegrins or serbians...i read some stats on that site that said so but i was wondering more about the present...because i also heard they wanted to separate from Serbia/Jugo and it puzzles me if they are serbian and want to secede.
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Post by midge on May 5, 2005 19:10:45 GMT 1
As far as I know Montenegrins are Montenegrins. They have similar culture, tradition etc., but they have different language and yeah some of them want Montenegro to become an independant state.
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Post by Ghost Writer on May 5, 2005 19:34:14 GMT 1
Serbs are from Serbia.
Montenegrins from Crnogorska Montenegro!
Montenegrins don't really like Croatians. This is just my opinion. What I tend to come across when encountered by them.
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Post by Shrek on May 5, 2005 19:39:08 GMT 1
I smell trolls
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Post by Ghost Writer on May 5, 2005 19:55:22 GMT 1
I smell trolls Isn't Shrek a troll? That means your nose is to close to your as*s! Hehehehehe
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Post by valiant 1 on May 5, 2005 20:17:11 GMT 1
montenegrins are just another example of a typical slavic balkan identity crisis. which republic of the ex yugoslavia doesnt have an identity crisis? no body knows who they really are . they only think they know who they are when they dislike someone else. even if that someone else is from the next village or next town or next city.
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Post by croam on May 5, 2005 21:25:38 GMT 1
ghost....too bad...this ribica is njaaaaaaaaam!!!
she grew up in slovenia though so i think there may be a good chance she isn't a super nationalist...
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Post by Girl from Zagreb on May 7, 2005 16:00:37 GMT 1
Croam,
Montenegrins are separate nation with their own culture and history, language is similar to Croatian but they write in cyrillic. I can tell you a bit about Montenegro before and today, since my husband went to primary school there. My husband's father was a military conducor, as Slovenian he was transfered to the capital of Montenegro, Titograd, today it is called Podgorica. When he brought my mother in law for the first visit to Titograd back in 70ties, he chose the best neighborhoods of the capital to show her. However, there were still sheep walking in the streets, and the first impression resulted with her bursting in tears. My husband told me some very amusing stories, like the one about some kid in the class doing his English assignment in cyrillic. However, his overall impression was not negative. Couple of years ago, we decided to go to Montenegro from Dubrovnik on the day trip. Very polite customs officer wished a pleasant stay to us (I remember I was already suprised and angry at the same time, because on the Croatian side a policewomen with an unfrindly face did not bother to say one word to us). We went to Budva, which is at the coast, and all the clubs are open for the people to enjoy their vacation till early morning hours. At that time I remembered how we would already bring a police to close those places down so they would not bother 90 year old granies. Then we went to Podgorica, the capital, which is today a modern city, like any other in Eastern Europe and I was a bit suprised. I must admit I was quite sceptic at first, but it turned out to be much better experience than I thought it would be. There are also Serbs living in Montenegro, there are also some Croats, I do not know if you heard of Boka Kotorska, it was predominatly a Croatian community before the ExYu war, and there are still Croats living there. So, someone from Montenegro can be a Montenegrin, a Serb or even a Croat.
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Post by croam on May 7, 2005 16:16:57 GMT 1
Girl From Zagreb: Thanks.... i was worried and skeptical too, as everyone either hates me for being American or Croatian...if not one, then the other, or both(well ok not everyone but you know what i mean). This girl pronounces some things in the serbian dialect but somethings croatian..i read that montenegrin dialect is closer to croatian than serbian. Regardless, she is montenegrin blood but is slovenian. She is really sweet too. Its stupid that I even care or think about it or maybe its just looking at the big picture. Obviously if she was from belgrade there would be issues.
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Post by Girl from Zagreb on May 7, 2005 16:34:03 GMT 1
It's about who she is, and not who she is from - but I know you are aware of that. Their language is a mixture of Serbian and Croatian ( I know they would not be very happy with my explanation but that's the easiest one). And if she is living in Slovenia today, they speak more ekavica even when they try to speak Croatia, because it is esier for them, so that could be an explanation as well. If it bothers you, you could ask her if she is for separation from Yugoslavia or against it - if she is for it, she is Montenegrin, if she is agains it, she is probably a Serb. But I guess the best way is to try to know her better - it will be much easier to decide than.
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Post by croam on May 7, 2005 16:47:12 GMT 1
she's lived in slovenia her whole life and she speaks slovenian to her mom and day to day so its no big deal. She's a good person...thats what counts. She calls herself montenegrin blood so that says it all right there because there are serbs from montenegro who consider themselves serbs and this retard on another forum said that only muslims from montenegro called themselves montenegrin but i knew this wasn't true. Thanks!
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Post by croam on May 7, 2005 16:48:04 GMT 1
hey she's slovenian so thats neutral territory!! Thats Kool and the Gang to me.
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