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Post by noddy on Nov 12, 2005 6:43:04 GMT 1
why do you call it acting? maybe there's just less bile in some people.
and of course there's some truth in what you're saying - if there had been a war in slovenia, they probably wouldn't've been where they are now.
but the fact that there was a war in croatia cannot be the eternal excuse for everything wrong here.
it's like grown-ups blaming their misbehaviour on their tough childhood. right, the childhood might have been tough, but that's not an excuse for everything they do later in life. at some point people become responsible for their behaviours.
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Post by glen on Nov 12, 2005 8:41:17 GMT 1
..may I be the first to wish everyone a MERRY CHRISTMAS ;D
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Post by croam on Nov 12, 2005 13:15:18 GMT 1
why do you call it acting? maybe there's just less bile in some people. and of course there's some truth in what you're saying - if there had been a war in slovenia, they probably wouldn't've been where they are now. but the fact that there was a war in croatia cannot be the eternal excuse for everything wrong here. it's like grown-ups blaming their misbehaviour on their tough childhood. right, the childhood might have been tough, but that's not an excuse for everything they do later in life. at some point people become responsible for their behaviours. i agree you can't blame the past forever but we are not talking about Croatia's problems right now but more specifically Slovenia rubbing things in Croatia's face. I think pointing out what a big mess serbia is in does nothing to promote Croatia and is insulting and demeaning. They should have respect towards a country who fought a bloody war. For anyone from that country to belittle Croatia when in reality they are not that far advanced.... i could care less if you make 500 or 1000 euros a month....its the same to me.... and money doesn't mean you have culture or are advanced even though society seems to say it does. They are just as "balkan" as anyone else. Luckily geography, ethnic purity, and geography saved them from horrors that serbs and croats had to face. Now they should keep their mouthes shut regarding the rest of Yugos affairs. I don't care if they go on thinking they are european, i just don't want to hear about it. To quote John Lennon "you think your so clever and classless and free, but your still f**king peasants as far as i can see".
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Post by davidzg on Nov 12, 2005 16:32:48 GMT 1
why do you call it acting? maybe there's just less bile in some people. and of course there's some truth in what you're saying - if there had been a war in slovenia, they probably wouldn't've been where they are now. but the fact that there was a war in croatia cannot be the eternal excuse for everything wrong here. it's like grown-ups blaming their misbehaviour on their tough childhood. right, the childhood might have been tough, but that's not an excuse for everything they do later in life. at some point people become responsible for their behaviours. i agree you can't blame the past forever but we are not talking about Croatia's problems right now but more specifically Slovenia rubbing things in Croatia's face. I think pointing out what a big mess serbia is in does nothing to promote Croatia and is insulting and demeaning. They should have respect towards a country who fought a bloody war. For anyone from that country to belittle Croatia when in reality they are not that far advanced.... i could care less if you make 500 or 1000 euros a month....its the same to me.... and money doesn't mean you have culture or are advanced even though society seems to say it does. They are just as "balkan" as anyone else. Luckily geography, ethnic purity, and geography saved them from horrors that serbs and croats had to face. Now they should keep their mouthes shut regarding the rest of Yugos affairs. I don't care if they go on thinking they are european, i just don't want to hear about it. To quote John Lennon "you think your so clever and classless and free, but your still ing peasants as far as i can see". Croam your hatrded of Slovenes is the exactly the kind of attitude that led to so many deaths.
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Post by croam on Nov 13, 2005 0:23:48 GMT 1
dave your complete lack of knowledge never ceases to amaze me. you have an innate ability to only see what you want to see even when its black and white on your screen. You act as if i came out of nowhere with this crap. It was in response to Pip who is clearly an instigator.
I don't hate Slovenes. My great grandmother was Slovene you jack ass. Its people's attitudes I don't care for and one ty attitude deserves another. I won't sit back and let people on Croatia or the US without throwing it back in their face. Every country has its problems Dave. I'm tired of of people who complain just for "therapy" at everyone else's expense. You complain alot but you haven't offered one practical solution or step you are taking yourself to make things better. Your just a little bitch. Its annoying. Go to a therapist and complain or come on here and post something that is solution oriented.
If your not part of the solution your part of the problem. Out of 500 posts in 4 months, how many were positive and how many negative? Next, how many were "solutions oriented?" So really your just airing your anxiety on a message board instead of a therapists couch.
Thanks for your insight.
And sorry i bring up touchy, yet very real attitudes and problems with slovenia croatian relations...but lets just talk about the d**n rooster that wakes you up everyday or the jerks who key your car.
Quit trying to figure me out Dave. You haven't given me any evidence to think you have the ability to yet you have given plenty of evidence that says you don't know me at all.
You said i voted for Bush and I never did although you were convinced i was a Bush lover and i kept telling you i wasn't. That's just the most recent one that comes to mind. So give it up. You can't figure someone out by the posts they make on a website.
I've also stated i grew up with was friends with, and went to school with serbs and arabs. Yet I'm a nazi slovene hater too. Although there are elements of my personality that are contradictive, I'm not that night and day, nor do I care about what race or culture anyone is when i meet them one on one in person. As far as "movements" or groups are concerned, my attitudes vary.
So just drink a pint and heil the picture of the queen thats hanging in your bedroom and quit making incorrect statements about me.
Thanks.
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Post by davidzg on Nov 13, 2005 2:30:46 GMT 1
Croam rght wing idiot who thinks he is a croat ;D
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Post by croam on Nov 13, 2005 2:57:03 GMT 1
hahahaha. your funny dave. i guess your wife went to bed early, again;)
i'm far from a right winger. you like to resort to name calling and easy labels instead of intelligent debate, but I accepted that a long time ago. at least your buddy emiz was somewhat resonable and had a sense of humor.
i have been trying to imagine what you look like...you know, put a face to the name? I keep picturing George Castanza from Seinfeld.
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Post by glen on Nov 13, 2005 9:03:38 GMT 1
funny how this debate has turned into croat-slovene relations (when they are now holding regular meetings to tidy up outstanding border issues) - its about CHRISTMAS, GOODWILL TO ALL MEN, your both grumpy old misers...
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Post by elianor on Nov 13, 2005 18:40:33 GMT 1
Correct Glen .Why do this silly people always fite each other. Why not fite people they think are making croatia bad and do somethin about it in the real world ?
I know it early but Merry Christmas everyone.
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Post by pipastro on Nov 13, 2005 20:38:25 GMT 1
It was croam who said that the serbs should have killed the slovenes off.
I am now turning pro-cro and all my posts will be delightfully blissfull.
Croatia is now my most favorite place on the planet. I must have been out of my mind to think that it was corrupt when in fact it was charity. The poor government needs my charity and as a rich foreigner I was happy to help them out.
I love the people, especially the beggars. They bring me joy with their one-toothed smiles and its only my greatest pleasure to donate cash to them for their dental care.
I am also now a devout catholic. I am turning veggie and will eat fish on friday. i will go to church and donate so that the church can press for new laws so no one will work on sunday, or any other day for that matter.
I will also work hard, and when I make something good I will sell it to the Germans (the Croatian saviours).
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Post by croam on Nov 13, 2005 22:07:05 GMT 1
pip ain't no croat.
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Post by davidzg on Nov 13, 2005 22:33:25 GMT 1
He is more of a croat than you. He certainly does more for Croatia than you do, then again so do I, and I am not a Croatian.
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Post by pipastro on Nov 13, 2005 23:36:14 GMT 1
I am a Cro, and I employ people, it is my cash that feeds their families.
Without me they would starve and have even less teeth than they do now.
I am a real Croatian, I just dont like fake ones like Bosnians and Hercegovinans (unless they were born here or had a parent who was born here).
I am going to vote ultra nationalist next time to kick them all out.
Proove your Cro blood line or leave!
Who is a real croat now?
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Post by croam on Nov 14, 2005 0:50:19 GMT 1
He is more of a croat than you. He certainly does more for Croatia than you do, then again so do I, and I am not a Croatian. i already called you out several times and told you how you do nothing for croatia and that your a little bitch. too bad you haven't responded to that.
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Post by croam on Nov 14, 2005 0:53:57 GMT 1
I am a Cro, and I employ people, it is my cash that feeds their families. Without me they would starve and have even less teeth than they do now. I am a real Croatian, I just dont like fake ones like Bosnians and Hercegovinans (unless they were born here or had a parent who was born here). I am going to vote ultra nationalist next time to kick them all out. Proove your Cro blood line or leave! Who is a real croat now? i guess I'm out if you base it on geography but your statement only reinforces the mounting evidence that proves your stupidity. Bloodlines and geography don't necessarily have anything to do with each other. I was born in the US but my bloodline is in Europe. they say ignorence is bliss.
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