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Post by Ribaric on Mar 20, 2009 8:38:51 GMT 1
MG, Is there any mention regarding Non-EU citizens? I haven't found anything yet Alby. The processes I've seen so far expressly refer only to EU citizens which I take to mean that non-EU people are not included. I do know the American chamber of commerce were heavily involved in lobbying for changes but I don't think they were interested in the matters discussed in this thread (private property owners) but more in commercial matters. |
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Post by Madgolfer on Mar 20, 2009 9:32:19 GMT 1
alby3
"Is there any mention regarding Non-EU citizens? "
Short answer.....NO
There are some issues regarding how long you can be out of Croatia before loosing your visa entitlement which affect non EU citizens and also issues about familly re-unification, but I am not reallyup to speed on those.
Non EU citizens are covered by individual agreements between the countries concerned.
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Post by francis on Mar 25, 2009 6:45:55 GMT 1
anyone have a new laws in english yet??
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Post by Madgolfer on Mar 25, 2009 19:43:22 GMT 1
See my recent post under the heading d.o.o./residency visa.
It would be too long (Anna would freak out) to post the entire law on the forum. The relevent sections will follow in due course.
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 15, 2009 17:37:16 GMT 1
As my visa renewal is looming and since everything has changed since the last time I did it, I thought would resurrect this thread. The situation: Like everyone else who stayed here on a "house owners" visa, that was taken from me by the original change of law and, by the time the law was changed back again, everyone's visa expired. I was lucky in that I had (and took) the opportunity to get a "family unification" visa due to me having a common-law Croatian spouse. Now I want to go back to my "house owners" visa (it's a lot simpler) but now face a different set of hurdles. The lady in the police station says.... - My original house-owners visa has expired and now "there is a gap".
- I now have to apply as if it was the first application.
- I can apply from within Croatia (a surprise to me).
- I can get only 6 months for the "first" visa.
- After that, I will have to leave for 6 months and then come back and get a 12 month visa. (But surely, there will be another gap then?)
I have heard some crap in my many years but this is premier league standard. I have written a letter to explain that my visa only expired because 'you lot' changed the bloody law and then changed it back again when it was too late. I want a 12 month visa or a 6-month visa which I can renew without having to leave the country. Is anyone else applying for a home-owners visa? |
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Post by keepsmiling on Dec 15, 2009 20:18:21 GMT 1
What a FARCE!!! Can't believe what I'm reading.
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Post by gmh on Dec 15, 2009 20:31:19 GMT 1
Ribaric, why are you setting yourself up for such a headache ?
Just renew the visa you have. It has to be the easiest way surely.
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 15, 2009 21:26:03 GMT 1
Ribaric, why are you setting yourself up for such a headache ? Just renew the visa you have. It has to be the easiest way surely. A sensible question... but... I have to get a renewal of my divorce paper which is less than 6 months old - like I may have got un-divorced since last year? It's 200 Euros. Then I have to go to Zagreb and make a statement that I am legally free to get married (50 Euros) which gets posted on the wall in the Uk embassy for 4 weeks - just in case somebody knows that I've got un-divorced and they just happen to be in the embassy and see my declaration and feel inclined to challenge it. Then I have to back to Zagreb and buy a form that say "I intend to marry a Croatian" and I have to have a notarised letter from my intended to say that she is the lady in question and I am telling the truth (50 euros plus notary fee). Then I have to go to the police station in Varazdin and prove all the usual stuff about income, police records, new birth certificate (in case I un-borned myself since last year), health insurance etc. I cant actually get a police statement now because I don't have an address in the UK to prove I am resident there - which I'm not. Then I have to wait for the police to swoop upon me to check there are women's clothes around my house and the neighbours to say that she and I have been seen regularly about the place.... for which I have to pay about 40 Euros. Then I have to say to the police why we didn't get married during the past year after I promised we would from last year's application statements. If all is OK, I have to pay for the visa, the most expensive of all of them as well as promising (notarised) that I will not work in any capacity for which my university degree is not applicable. I don't have a degree so I can't work anyway it seems. In short, I resent the implications and the cost... but you are right - it is a headache, but that's true either way. |
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Post by prkbrk on Dec 16, 2009 1:13:14 GMT 1
Then I have to go to the police station in Varazdin and prove all the usual stuff about income, police records, new birth certificate (in case I un-borned myself since last year), health insurance etc. I cant actually get a police statement now because I don't have an address in the UK to prove I am resident there - which I'm not.
Then I have to wait for the police to swoop upon me to check there are women's clothes around my house and the neighbours to say that she and I have been seen regularly about the place.... for which I have to pay about 40 Euros
Other than the health insurance and proof of funds the above should not apply- at least it didn't for me last year. As for plod visiting i just trot along to see the lady for about 10 minutes- she does say she wil pop over one day to see me and take tea and biccies.....
All I need is to prove I am married TBH and that entails a notarised copy from the UK (about 200 euros as you said).Mind you I sympathise with you re the common law extra paperwork
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Post by Ribaric on Dec 16, 2009 8:56:44 GMT 1
Frankly prkbrk, it mostly depends upon which of the three ladies who work in the police station I get to see - and what mood she's in. As much as things vary from region to region, they also vary between individual officials and how they feel at the time.
It all goes into the nick tomorrow so I guess I'll have to wait and see. I've got until mid February to sort it out so, if the worse comes to the worse, I'll just go and "re-divorce" myself, get "re-born" and make another promise to get married.... Oh!.. and pay!
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Post by upthevilla on Dec 16, 2009 9:04:48 GMT 1
Ribaric...Having done all this and trying all possibilities i know what you are going through. I did the common law wife thing for the last few years and it worked OK, But they we worked out why we have no money and huge headache - Visa application.
I estimate that i spent between 2,000 and 3,000 euro per year getting all the pieces of paper,back to UK, flights, travel to Zagreb etc plus the amount of time lost is ?
SO, this summer i got married,- 2 weeks later I got my visa.
I don't know what will be next summer when its due for renewal, I am hoping that i supply my marriage certificate which is in Croatian and then stamp stamp and no need to go back to UK and public notarise every piece of paper i know of apart from my library card .
We will wait and see, but for now all i can suggest is get married its a hell of a lot easier.
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Post by ray51 on Dec 16, 2009 10:44:45 GMT 1
Fisch ,
this makes for some breathtaking reading , even more than your monthly Blogs !
And herinthekitchen must be really animated and excited about the ding-dongs , the swings and the proverbial roundabouts of your HR-residential history ?
In comparison , looking back at my own case : as a holder of U.K. passport , residing in another EU-country , where my permanent residence get automatically renewed ever five years and where I have long become entitled to citizenship ...just how dull and Boring does one's life get , pray !?
On the practical side of life : I know a good number of Croats who did get married to locals ( in Canada , GB , South Africa , Oz etc ) as this was the only solution to legally remaining in those , more attractive to them , countries ; in some cases this involved cash stimulus , too - yet , in others : not even cohabitation ...
...perhaps you can yet turn the tables and peruse the same strategy ( and the detailed ante-nuptial contract would be yet another legal proof of seriousness of your intentions , hehehe )?
Alternatively , it's back to U.K. , to attend to the papirology , yet again , I guess ?
( from your , rather distant , neck o' the woods , you appear to get to go there much more often than me , whereas it takes me under 2 hours of driving these excellent , FREE autoroutes to the Chunnel or the ferries...)
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Post by siriwan on Dec 16, 2009 11:20:12 GMT 1
Ribaric...Having done all this and trying all possibilities i know what you are going through. I did the common law wife thing for the last few years and it worked OK, But they we worked out why we have no money and huge headache - Visa application. I estimate that i spent between 2,000 and 3,000 euro per year getting all the pieces of paper,back to UK, flights, travel to Zagreb etc plus the amount of time lost is ? SO, this summer i got married,- 2 weeks later I got my visa. I don't know what will be next summer when its due for renewal, I am hoping that i supply my marriage certificate which is in Croatian and then stamp stamp and no need to go back to UK and public notarise every piece of paper i know of apart from my library card . We will wait and see, but for now all i can suggest is get married its a hell of a lot easier. Wow... My "new" husband (new as in recent, not new as in "yet another one" :-)) had to go back to Bosnia to get his passport, and when he went to the consulate in Banja Luka with all the papers, including a marriage certificate, they asked him... why he wanted a visa... All this after it cost me over 100 euros in documents I didn't need as the (otherwise very nice) lady at MUP "forgot" that the first visa must be asked and waited for in your country of origins... right... And now I'll have to renew mine (and therefore his automatically) in only a few months... If I had (like most of us on the forum :-)) 10 euros per day I lost running after documents and all, I could get a nice holiday far away from here :-)) |
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Post by Madgolfer on Dec 16, 2009 13:44:57 GMT 1
I'm starting to think the business visa/work permit route is not such a bad option after all.  Rib, did you check that just before the first 6 month visa would expire, that you can then apply for a 12 month one? Otherwise you would have to leave for six months.....  |
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Post by Ribaric on Feb 7, 2012 22:50:26 GMT 1
Hi Cornellj, This is the thread where we all went through hell when the law changed a year or two ago and dropped us all in the cart. It tells how I was forced to go the same route you are suggesting. Enjoy
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