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Post by capio on Apr 28, 2011 11:47:53 GMT 1
I don't believe a nationality can be fundamentally lazy, but we're all conditioned by our surroundings and the work ethic in Croatia at least compared to the Uk is extremely low. Constant cigarette coffee breaks and clock watching are the norm.
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Post by 3lions on Apr 28, 2011 12:19:24 GMT 1
Whatever anyone says it is not good business to have tourists wandering around with nothing to do when they could be spending their money.
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Post by capio on Apr 29, 2011 21:20:49 GMT 1
I have bigger issues with religion than people not being able to buy tat.
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Post by jellybean on Apr 30, 2011 7:02:18 GMT 1
just going off tangent slightly the Cro/Dalmatian immigrants over here in NZ had a reputation as the hardest working toilers of all the immigrant groups Clearing vast tracks of scrub into productive vineyards and orchards.Your surname was a passport for employment basically cos they knew you were a grafter.Bit diffo these days with current generation living easy and lazily off their forebears efforts Im sure it was similar in the States and Aus
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Post by 3lions on May 1, 2011 7:43:17 GMT 1
yes a lot of emigrants had land skills and new how to utilise them in their new countries. Some made a lot of money in the process. I guess this adds to the idea that the Croats who stayed put are lazy. Those that went abroad found and had different work ethics.
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Post by Kaskader on May 2, 2011 18:52:32 GMT 1
Anyone been in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv on any given Saturday? Are Jewish lazy because they rest 1 day every week, with everything closed?
In Uni I went here in the UK, there were many of us originating from Cro, ex-Yu and Eastern Europe, at the time none of the countries was in the EU, so all of us paid full tuition fee, at the time (94-99) around £6k. Tuition fee for our British colleagues was £0.
Five years on, and six months before my graduation I bought first house with 15% deposit, out of my savings from having worked aprox 40 hours per week during term time, and 100 hours per week during summer holidays. Morning office cleaning, gardening, night security guard, painting, making pizzas, washing up in restaurants, driving lorry during night delivering vegetables from farms to wholesale markets in central London...you name it I did it all on minimum wages. My wife too.
My British colleagues, most of them, graduated with me with some 15-20K debts..even though their tuition fee was £0. They racked up debts not on tuition fees but on living expenses...they could not bother to work even for that, even though at the time Thames Valley area of Berkshire had officially lowest employment in the whole of the EU. I guess none of the jobs I mentioned above was worth a bother to them. Quite a few of them still rent.
Russian friend of mine, who went through all of this with me, today owns small hotel. Most of Eastern Europeans, Croatians, ex-YU who settled here bought their houses soon after getting first job after Uni.
As we came in the UK with almost no money, I studied during days, worked most nights, my wife worked 7 days per week for year and a half and then had a first day off, first holiday.
So, we moved into our first cheapish two bed terrace house in lower class neighbourhood...what else a student can actually afford. All neighbours British. Few years on, one week I see double glazing company replacing windows and doors to 80% of my neighbours houses...I'm thinking, what is going on, everyone won lottery??!!..
Turned out 80% of those houses in the street belonged to council.
Those people might be more lazy than me, but they are certainly smarter. I paid my double glazing windows, and I replaced them myself.
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Post by 3lions on May 24, 2011 4:41:56 GMT 1
hmm, not really, you can sell your house and get something else.
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Post by Kaskader on May 24, 2011 15:22:06 GMT 1
Don't understand... I mentioned "my first house"...
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Post by 3lions on May 24, 2011 23:23:22 GMT 1
I mean you can't sell your house if it is council, you might get the council to do a bit of painting and decorating, but you can't sell it on. So in that sense it doesn't matter that they had their windows replaced. The only cure for laziness is death (I quote someone, can't remember whom? ??)
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Post by Kaskader on May 27, 2011 9:54:05 GMT 1
Got it.
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