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Post by Anna on Jul 24, 2004 15:04:05 GMT 1
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Post by Anja on Jul 25, 2004 14:13:42 GMT 1
The apartments they mention - starting 150 000 POUNDS.. I am thinking - what they are made of? Gold? While you can still find beutiful houses priced 35 000 pounds on Hvar..this is just a big jump in prices.. and very much forced I would say..
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Post by Graham - Bosmere on Jul 25, 2004 15:59:38 GMT 1
I wonder who sponsored the journalist
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Post by Anja on Jul 27, 2004 7:56:26 GMT 1
True, I sell houses but I do not like this type of commeration of Adriatic coast. We also have children who would like one day to live in a nice place. How they are going to afford to buy something? So big jump in prices I see as a direct attack on their future. This force in price is about just one man or one corporation getting richer and not looking at a damage it is causing to a little man.. We do not need this. Croatia is beautiful enough and has enough space and properties to home everybody who would respect the nature. Every day I meet people from the whole world moving to Croatia and trying to find a way of living there. They all have the same sparkle in their eyes: they love Croatia and are determined to settle their life there. The also have or will have children. Their children will one day need to buy a place too. We do not need apartmanisation, this is a short-sighted view and it is so wrong..
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Post by san franicisco guy on Jul 29, 2004 20:55:38 GMT 1
The apartments they mention - starting 150 000 POUNDS.. I am thinking - what they are made of? Gold? While you can still find beutiful houses priced 35 000 pounds on Hvar..this is just a big jump in prices.. and very much forced I would say.. you are quite right anja. i agree. these apartments are for get rich quick developers.......i do think on the positive side that many that buy old places will fix them up and that will make Croatia even more beautiful as well as cosmopolitan with the right minded people.
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Post by alsdoubles on Jul 31, 2004 0:30:00 GMT 1
True, I sell houses but I do not like this type of commeration of Adriatic coast. We also have children who would like one day to live in a nice place. How they are going to afford to buy something? So big jump in prices I see as a direct attack on their future. This force in price is about just one man or one corporation getting richer and not looking at a damage it is causing to a little man.. We do not need this. Croatia is beautiful enough and has enough space and properties to home everybody who would respect the nature. Every day I meet people from the whole world moving to Croatia and trying to find a way of living there. They all have the same sparkle in their eyes: they love Croatia and are determined to settle their life there. The also have or will have children. Their children will one day need to buy a place too. We do not need apartmanisation, this is a short-sighted view and it is so wrong.. If you sell houses you must sell them for a profit. Why not leave the violins alone. It's a business. I wouldn't knock anyone who is making a profit. The hearts and flowers should be left well out of such things. Right minded people...I notice a San Franciscan guy mention. Dear oh dear. Leave it out. Never knock a profit, ever. It might be your profit.
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Post by san francisco guy on Jul 31, 2004 3:54:57 GMT 1
If you sell houses you must sell them for a profit. Why not leave the violins alone. It's a business. I wouldn't knock anyone who is making a profit. The hearts and flowers should be left well out of such things. Right minded people...I notice a San Franciscan guy mention. Dear oh dear. Leave it out. Never knock a profit, ever. It might be your profit. i have nothing against making a profit as a house is an investment. I look for that. What I don't care for is massive developers placing huge Costa Brava style apartment complexes on the Croatian coastline. I think its wise that Croatia is learning from the mistakes of Spain. I'm no hearts and flowers guy believe me.........i think there is smart development and Croatia can attract a more cultural and slightly higher sort of travelers/expats and people desiring to move there or summer home there versus the ugly British Yobs puking in the streets and getting laid at every opportunity like in Ibiza and other places. you know what I am talking about
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Post by Anja on Jul 31, 2004 8:20:05 GMT 1
If you sell houses you must sell them for a profit. Why not leave the violins alone. It's a business. I wouldn't knock anyone who is making a profit. The hearts and flowers should be left well out of such things. Right minded people...I notice a San Franciscan guy mention. Dear oh dear. Leave it out. Never knock a profit, ever. It might be your profit. Dear Alsdoubles, There are ways and ways of doing something. Wih Croatia it is a bit different, you do not need to point you finger to show the facts twice. People get it first time. Croatia is currently in a middle of two interests, again two 'blocks'.. can not escape it, can we? And these two types of capitalism around, american style and european style. And then there is an old stly os sociaism still in heads of Croatian people. You can not force your style here, you have to adopt and and swim same as others do.. I never seen anyone getting rich in 'get rich quickly packets', I am sure for your money you need to work hard.. Agresive ways are maybe modern, but IMO they wouldn't get far in Croatia.
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Post by alsdoubles on Aug 1, 2004 23:19:13 GMT 1
And these two types of capitalism around, american style and european style. And then there is an old stly os sociaism still in heads of Croatian people. You can not force your style here, you have to adopt and and swim same as others do.. With the greatest respect I am not so sure there are two types of anything. Old style, new style, Americanisms, Europeanisms..........Peaople 'see' Croatia as prime profit land. I am not so sure it is, yet . Short term. But pretty sure it WILL BE one day. Depending on how the political situation swings. If and when, the profit will not respect anything, maybe. Croatia is swarming with tourists right now. Swarming. Many tourists possibly thinking, boy this would be great, I could buy a house here, for peanuts. AND many people could. But, I see no queue yet big enough to urge a land/property grab. 1994 would have been a good year for buying, for sure. Anyone with some experience of the place would be well advised to hang back and see what happens. At the moment there is enough to go around. Many plans for the place, but only plans. The melting pot is full of possibles. When the cards fall down, which ever side of the debate they fall on, someone WILL make money. For sure. The longer you live here the more you know. Then you can see the possibilities. Great changes will make profits, maybe, for many. Losses for many. Profit alone I have always found is the oil necessary to make the machine work. You don't ever have to like it. It's a thing.
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Post by Vjeko Slava on Aug 2, 2004 15:00:17 GMT 1
Absolutely agree with Abs.. Leave it out Anja - what are you - a developer with a heart? We all have children, that are why we are developing away, don't we? Or it's really all worth it for us, mentioning children along the way. If there are people with £135k to spare - fine. They can spare it for a studio in London, so why not in Cro. Because Anje & Co haven’t bought enough properties in Cro to develop & pocket the profit in time? Long cheese reply please here Anja ;D ;D
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Post by Terra on Aug 2, 2004 15:43:34 GMT 1
Why have so many people on this forum problems with developers? We are developing high qaulity villas in Istria and we know prices for building, infrastucture and so on. It is getting more and more expensive so also the properties are getting more expensive- just like in any other country. And why can developers not make money? They are putting a lot of risk and capital in a new market- so of course they want a higher return! And who has problems with some high qaulity apartment development? They are certainly better then the concrete blocks that are currently built along the whole coast by Croatians. I have been down the whole coast and I have not seen one good development so far. They seem to have gone all to the same architec school. It is time for some international developers to enter the market. If not, the coast will soon be destroyed by ugly buildings.
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