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Post by pipastro on Nov 17, 2005 15:33:50 GMT 1
at least the heating works, so its nice and warm.
also the windows are ok, and i can cook!
cheerio!
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Post by gmh on Nov 17, 2005 15:47:34 GMT 1
That does sound like a real hassle pip. Your first statement about me not working on a building site here was incorrect though. I assisted the builders that raised the roof on the family holiday house on Krk. That's the only experience I related as far as Croatia is concerned. I used to be involved in building and renovation back in oz when I was younger, so can compare my experiences there. If you ever want some help with building work, let me know, because i can do just about anything. I wouldn't feel good about putting a croat out of work though, but if you can't find one you're willing to trust with your money, it's your choice.
Is there a licensing system for builders here, and can you only have licensed builders do work for you ? Can you legally do your own home renovations and building work?
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Post by pipastro on Nov 17, 2005 16:42:10 GMT 1
you can do what you want yourself.
The thing is if you change the exterior of your house/flat etc or expand then you need a permit.
If you dont have the permit, then when your place gets values then it is only the original formation that counts, no value is attached to your modifications or expansions.
Thinking about it that that may actually be a good thing.
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Post by croam on Nov 17, 2005 17:07:03 GMT 1
Hi croam The natives in your county is the various tribes of red indians. Does your statement still stand? Jan good point. your going to give me a complex about my identity though. Maybe I'm from a long lost tribe from Persia or something. There, now i feel better about my history.
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Post by owensyb on Nov 17, 2005 19:41:27 GMT 1
Hi guys,
I have read all the messages on "GET A CROATIAN TO DO IT" with great interest. At present looking at holiday home type property in Croatia - so every little bit of info helps. However in the same token I have just received a quote from 2 builders here in Ireland for a new roof on my old two up two down semi - remove old slates and replace with new, facias included - at a cost of 15,500 euro !!!! Hows that for inflation !! Wish I could get the Croatians to do it for me here!!
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Post by croam on Nov 17, 2005 19:51:35 GMT 1
i'm sure you could find some croatians in ireland to do it for you cheaper.
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Post by Madgolfer on Nov 17, 2005 20:42:16 GMT 1
It's worth remembering that generalization is the foundation racism is built on and blanket statements like: "Incentive's a Croat! Thats almost laughable." is racism. In addition such attitude does nothing to improve the situation for those who have been unfortunate to have bad experiences here, in UK or any other place. Jan It was certainly not my intention to appear racist, but I stand by my original comment stands. Incentives do NOT work with most tradesmen here. I have worked in the construction industry in the UK for 20 years and for three years in Europe, so i have a pretty good idea of what I am talking about when comparing tradesmen in different countries. Incentives are neither understood or appreciated here by the vast majority of the workforce. Instead they see this as a kind of weakness and a way of getting more money for the job they were supposed to do anyway. I had one carpenter who demanded a 30% increase in his agreed weekly wage as he had to "think a lot" that week!!!!! Reality not racism.
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Post by janjohansen on Nov 17, 2005 21:27:52 GMT 1
Hi madgolfer
I'm aware of that racist remarks written in a hurry on a cyperspace forum don't make the person who wrote them racist. We all sometimes write things in a hurry that comes out different than we wished them to. When you say "most workers here" you give the impression that you have seen most workers here in Croatia which you obviously have not. This is consciously or unconsciously translating individual experiences into universal facts which is unfair to everyone who have had different experiences than you. I'm one of them, the stone work, ceramics and porcelain work done on my property is of a standard I never have seen in UK, Norway where I come from or in any other country where I have lived. It was all done on time at a prework agreed price. I respect your individual experiences, but that's all they are. It's when we generalize as you accidently did they become racist. I appreciate that you took time to clarify what you actually wanted to get across. Cheers Jan
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Post by gmh on Nov 18, 2005 10:55:38 GMT 1
You seem like a fair level headed guy Jan. I like that. Perhaps we should all keep in mind that generaly we can only really say 'the few that I have dealt with' when discussing our experiences dealing with different services. The fact is, I doubt that any of us have dealt with any more than 25% of people in any given industry here.
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