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Post by ROG on Jan 30, 2006 21:21:35 GMT 1
PS The former Krajina was Serbian owned and comprised many properties on your coastline. For some it was "former", and for others "so called" (in fact - both). I bet why you are so pissed off (if I didn't had money for anything more decent then Karin, I will probably be pissed of too ... alot). But if I am you, I would never even think of buying property in Croatia with such attitude. Otherwise, take friendly advice ... get good insurance, or keep your "progressive toughs" for yourself ... But who knows, maybe one day you become new Royalty of "former Krajina" ... So far - you have nice and progressive attitude, and complete lack of rational thinking. Something to start with ... anyway.
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Post by mark2 on Jan 30, 2006 21:38:47 GMT 1
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Post by Ribaric on Jan 30, 2006 23:17:23 GMT 1
Sorry ROG, your analagies are too deep, you've lost me there...not that it's difficult to do.
I don't own diddly here, but to stay here, most people have to buy a property. Like it or otherwise, most foreigners have no choice. Buy or leave.
In Wales, the used to burn so-called "English" holiday homes because local youngsters couldn't afford to buy (because the English buyers forced up prices). Not a new tactic here is it.
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Post by mambo on Jan 31, 2006 0:51:05 GMT 1
Since when did the Krajina's border the coast ?
Maybe I missed something during the war, but in those days there was no sea along the official borders of the Krajina republic.
There was a lot of fighting near Zadar (especially around the bridge), but you cannot say that a lot of people were actually living there quietly.
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Post by ROG on Jan 31, 2006 0:55:41 GMT 1
Nothing deep in there ... trust me Ribaric.
I just don't understand why would I (or Croatia in general) care about what someone plans to do with his own life and money. It is huge world outside, and lot of opportunities is waiting for everybody. If not in Croatia - then somewhere else. Of course, if something so poetic as "visa" is not standing between him and "market".
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Post by ROG on Jan 31, 2006 0:56:58 GMT 1
Since when did the Krajina's border the coast ? Maybe I missed something during the war, but in those days there was no sea along the official borders of the Krajina republic. There was a lot of fighting near Zadar (especially around the bridge), but you cannot say that a lot of people were actually living there quietly. well ... don't bother ... "he don't understand".
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Post by daria14 on Jan 31, 2006 3:14:54 GMT 1
Actually Mark one property is filled with my cousins and aunt during the year and over the summer with tourists. The other has my grandparents, so to answer youre question no they arent empty!
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Post by mark2 on Jan 31, 2006 17:19:05 GMT 1
Since when did the Krajina's border the coast ? Maybe I missed something during the war, but in those days there was no sea along the official borders of the Krajina republic. Only the Karinsko & Novigradsko Seas with around 15 towns & villages comprising well in excess of a thousand houses.
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Post by gmh on Jan 31, 2006 17:37:19 GMT 1
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Post by mark2 on Jan 31, 2006 17:40:28 GMT 1
Incorrect! live here, work here!
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Post by gmh on Jan 31, 2006 17:50:37 GMT 1
Live where? work where? I'm open to all sides here mate, so if you can come up with a map that shows it to include part of the coastline, i'd be most interested to see it. I did end up finding one, but it was on a hard core serbian propaganda site.
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Post by mark2 on Jan 31, 2006 18:01:10 GMT 1
Whoooaaa! I don't want to get into an argument! But the villages and towns on the shores of the karin & Novigrad Seas were part of the Krajina. QUOTE "............ This forced Croatia to transport everything by ferryboats via the island of Pag, since the Krajina Serbs held the Karinsko sea and all the land detours" www.scc.rutgers.edu/serbian_digest/71/t71-1.htm
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Post by gmh on Jan 31, 2006 18:22:33 GMT 1
Well, I didn't want an argument, but it seems you do. I never said either way where the border lay, I'm just trying to find out and found a map that showed no coast teritory. You've just miss quoted an article to try and convince me that you're correct. It won't cut it. The bit about forcing ferries via Pag is in relation to the blowing up of a bridge, and the rest is in reference to Krajina serb military held teritory during the war. No mention of the borders of Krajina.
Interesting article though.
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Post by mambo on Jan 31, 2006 18:23:17 GMT 1
Mark,
I think you are a litte bit confused.
The Krajina Republic is according to the map Gav showed you and it is also the map which is widely known. What actually happened is that the Serbian Army used the Krajina's to start an offensive to cut the main supply road from North to Southern Croatia and that is the region that you describe. By cutting the railroad and bridge connection to the South the Serbs hoped they would be able to isolate that part and eventually conquer that region. Everybody knows that the Serbs stood at the outer edges of Zadar and were lobbing granade after granade into the city. All the villages in that territory were more or less destroyed, citizens murdered etc.
Gotovina finally drove them away when he started his offensive which also finished of the Serbian Krajina republic.
So, yes there were Serbs in the region and along the part of the coast that you mention, but no, officially that part did not belong to the Krajina Republic.
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Post by mark2 on Jan 31, 2006 18:33:50 GMT 1
OK I will agree to disagree and be quiet.
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