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Post by valiant on Apr 23, 2006 22:17:24 GMT 1
croatias tycoons would crap their pants if Miksic were president . tycoons spend their money funding campaign favorites such as mesic. and that says it all.
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Post by valiant on Apr 23, 2006 22:32:05 GMT 1
and another thing...ive lived in split and in other places.life revolves around hospitlas and conversation topics are usually focused around health issues. the medical mafia in croatia has managed to turn croatia into one huge nation of hypochondriacs. croats are officialy the sickest people in europe. isnt it a huge coincedence that private health insurance will soon become a necesiuty!?? isnt it a coincidence that PLIVA s shares have absolutely skyroketed?? isnt it a coincedence that we have this nice "bioprognoza" on tv after every news reprt telling us that we are sick today and what tablets to buy! INA is doing the same thing ..keeping their share prices high!!! Joining the EU is big big money for Mega corporations but for average croats..joining the EU is like watching yourself being put on some insignificant little shelf , where you will be categorized, sorted and maybe picked for some job if youre lucky. The EU is one cold faceless money making organization.
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Post by valiant on Apr 23, 2006 22:49:31 GMT 1
big corps know exactly the mentality of the people who live in ex commy transitional corrupt countires. they have people analysing everything. they know what to do inorder to manipulate a country such as croatia ( actually the only transitional ex commy country with such a desirable coastline and resources and only 4 mill pop) !!! They know everything.If everything goes according to their plans..croatia will fall to the EU. Actually..if a miracle does happen and we dont join the EU...another forced crisis situation will be implemented ...
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Post by lojalnost on Apr 23, 2006 22:58:48 GMT 1
croatias tycoons would crap their pants if Miksic were president . tycoons spend their money funding campaign favorites such as mesic. and that says it all. erm.....Miksic is a tycoon, who finished THIRD in the Presidential elections and then tried to force a Ukrainian Orange Revolution by suggesting the result was fraudulent (but he didn't have any evidence). Very odd....
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Post by gmh on Apr 24, 2006 9:37:19 GMT 1
Miksic is as corrupt if not more than all the other politians in Croatia. He used to work in an engineering company here, the story goes that he stole the formula for a rust proofing technique, went to America and put a patent on it. Made a fortune in military contracts using the rust proofing technique that he stole from Croatia.
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Post by valiant on Apr 24, 2006 22:33:58 GMT 1
you believe in the crap the croatian papers write??!!! miksic is frustrated at not being able to break the vicious cirlce of corrupt politicians in croatia. he cant get into the club..they are affraid of him.....affraid of 1 person showing the people how easy it is to repair croatia!! how can you believe the papers in croatia when mesics last campaign was paid for by croatian tycoons??!! what are you thinking!!??have you been reading my last 2 pages of posts that is happening in croatia it is a fact. one big money making scam in a very important and prestigoiusly titled package ie: EU. and the election results were suspect...they found loads of ballot papers in large rubbish bins.....definately cause for new elections. everything in croatia is preplaned and corrupt..from severina to sanaders bridge..i know the buddy mentality ..you can hear it in every cafe conversation..one buddy doing favours for another one setting up jobs for eachother... no EU. YES boris miksic.yes new government. sanader , mesic, racan , linic, cacic, roys, and others...you all need to take a very deep hard look at yourselves and what your actions are doing to the minds of ordinary people in croatia...creating more hatred, more jelousy, more injustice, more corruption, more frusration, and a forced and artificialy created need for joining the EU..to save croatia ..in the end...from its huge preplanned foreign debt.
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Post by valiant on Apr 24, 2006 22:42:17 GMT 1
miksic becmae a tycoon in america, unlike our mega tycoons in croatia who walked the fields with sheep 15 years ago. miksic did try forcing a revolution..i often think that there is no other way to throw this scum out of the sabor. if these politicians were running australia...an australian revolution would take place..i absolutely believe that and im sure that gav would agree.
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Post by lojalnost on Apr 24, 2006 22:47:26 GMT 1
I did find it funny that Miksic didn't want to join the EU trade block because he wants Croatia to remain open to the American market. Like Croatia is going to export anything there! Duh!
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Post by lojalnost on Apr 24, 2006 22:48:20 GMT 1
An Australian Revolution.....that's really likely
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Post by valiant on Apr 24, 2006 23:17:32 GMT 1
yeah ..it is likely..put suker in charge of running australias economy, sanader and mesic in charge of australia, linic, cacic and the rest of them glued to their seats in parliament forever...and australians will literally throw them out , by force, im sure of it. western european countries wouldnt stand for it either, just take a look at france these days. croatia will export to other countries , not only to america but also to the us and asia, we need investment here but without the EU . and a new govt can provide incentives for investment , better trade relations. tourism , agriculture etc... sooo much potential. japan buys croatian tuna for instance, why wouldnt croatia export !! we have huge potential but the wrong people running the country. thats exactly why the EU wants croatia , no matter how much they try to convince us that croatia needs the EU ..they havent fooled me one bit! i grew up in australia, ive lived in croatia for 10 years, ive experienced this entire trasnitional phase and from my perspective....this country and its gullable ex commy conditioned population is being absolutely manipulated and used to the absolutle maximum, even now this countrys ex commy corporations are using every merciless tactic on croatias frustrated population to increase their share prices before they sell out to EU corps. local politicians are fighting toothe and nail for power so that they can make a quick million before the EU buys out croatia. our politicians are buying property all over the coast ( even under foreign registered firms) and manipulating the realestate market , even by allowing loop holes in laws concerning foreign purchase of realestate and thats lifitng realestate prices way out of the reach of croatians who earn 4 times less than western countries . we need a new govt. not the EU!
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Post by lojalnost on Apr 25, 2006 0:04:09 GMT 1
without the EU Croatia will never reach any ecomonmies of scale to compete globally....it's economies of scale will be tiny, miniscule
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Post by Ribaric on Apr 25, 2006 1:19:20 GMT 1
I'm with Loyalnost on this one. BIG market means big opportunities - if you're on the inside. Which small normal country is wealthy? None! Only those with oil or "other" help (Swiss/Norway) make the grade. What has Croatia to offer any more than Moldova, Georgia, Serbia .......... Nothing but tourism which may well be helped if it were in Euroland. Cheap labour maybe, is that want we want? The EU Is the better of two evils IMHO.
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Post by gmh on Apr 25, 2006 8:18:45 GMT 1
You guys are forgetting the all powerful vegeta. Valiant that story about miksic goes way back before he ever decided to be something here that he has no chance of being in America. I've seen some docos that he produces about himself in America and he tries to convince everyone that he's some kind of Croatian hero. Also Croatia does export tuna. the family of a freind of mine owns 'Sardina' d.d. on Brac and I saw their products in many Australian supermarkets along with a few other croatian products. I agree that Croatia needs a better bunch of pollys but certainly Miksic is not the answer, he's just after some fame to go with his fortune.
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Post by valiant on Apr 25, 2006 20:33:13 GMT 1
i dont think that miksic is perfect but he will break the vicious circle of politicians in croatia. who else can do that ? and croatia doesnt really have to be a huge competitor globally, we only have 4 million people here and resources to feed atleast 20 million. we need new politicians. every country that has joined the EU has already partially lost its identitiy, and the EU isnt going to last anyway. and why is sanader sooooooo set on croatia joining the EU ? we havent had a referendum, we wont even have ione until sanader is convinced that the people will vote for joining the EU. that sort of manipulation is something left over from the days of communism. read my last post !! it is all about realestate and making as much money as possible during this EU transitional phase...thats all its about. and foreigners ofcourse dont care..its not their heritage theyre selling and they will have access to everything in croatia eventhough most croats are over their heads in debt and cant even imagine buying a house, not to metion some stone dalmatian house on some island, thats become insanely expensive thanx to foreign interest and estate agents whod sell their kids for money .average people have been forced into a corner and are selling property because they have to, ,all scenario thats been well planes and implemented by our politicians and the EU, i cannot believe that our politicians are incompetant as they seem , they are making money, eg: velika gorica...suker buzz off, picula go back to istra and skare ozbolt is just testing her revenge tactics. croatia hasnt even had time to form an identity...its all a mater of tooo little too late. everyone is ripping off and manipulating a population of 4 million people to get whatever they want from this EU deal . for ordinary croats it is the robbery of the millenium, they just dont know that yet.
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Post by firefly on Apr 25, 2006 21:23:58 GMT 1
2 words - corn, ethanol. This is what Croatia should be investing in & exporting.
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