cadastre terminology

[MartinM]

Anyone know an English translation for the word 'reambulacija'?
In Latin it means to 'walk again' but what would be a good word in English in the context of cadastre, land registry etc. ??

[Ribaric]

The nearest I know is 'ambulanta' meaning surgery, clinic, ambulance.

The mind boggles.

[IgorG]

this word describes a procedure when there is a need for cadastre to mesure land again, to mesure precisely and calibrate main points of orientation, they are called reapers...


"Èlanak 28.

Tehnièka reambulacija ogranièeno je prikupljanje i obrada potrebnih podataka koje se provodi u svrhu u koju se provodi i katastarska izmjera.
U okviru tehnièke reambulacije iz postojeæeg katastra zemljišta, preuzet æe se, obraditi i prilagoditi oni podaci koji su pogodni za katastar nekretnina.
Ostali potrebni podaci prikupit æe se i obraditi po pravilima katastarske izmjere.

ZAKON
O DRŽAVNOJ IZMJERI I KATASTRU NEKRETNINA"

[MartinM]

Thanks for the explanation, I understand it now

Do you mean 'repairs' rather than 'reapers' (žetelice)?

[valiant]

thanx igor for clearing that one up. makes sense then (to walk again). -in order to remeasure a property.

[IgorG]

wobbleon said:

Thanks for the explanation, I understand it now

Do you mean 'repairs' rather than 'reapers' (žetelice)?

no, we call this points reapers ( I think it has something to do with foreign terms - german or hungarian - like "katastar" is hungarian word)

[MartinM]

'katastar' comes from Hungarian language?

[Carol]

i thought it was from the french cadastre which was a land registry system introduced by napoleon in all the countries he conquered

[IgorG]

Our katastar and gruntovnica were both formed under Austro-Hungary it could come from French (Napoleon) but it is the same word in hungary and croatia (katastar), all of our official paper signatures come from Austro-Hungary, this UR.BROJ, KLASA etc...

most of paper maps in katastar are from end of 19 century and newer as well as gruntovnica. problems and need for reambulacija comes from changes in paper maps over time (they stretch and contract) and from movement of main points (usually church towers, high buildings, mountain peaks) they settle down a few mm per year so after 50 years you can miss a couple of meters when triangulating (?)...

[MartinM]

Thank you IgorG.

Do you know what 'urbar' is? Do you know another word for this?
Can you show me a document which contains the word 'reapers'?

hvala

[IgorG]

wobbleon said:

Thank you IgorG.

Do you know what 'urbar' is? Do you know another word for this?
Can you show me a document which contains the word 'reapers'?

URBROJ means "urudžbeni broj" it is a number that marks official documents (like: ur.broj: 2019-01/08-209-06, first marks what office it is than a year and a number)

"reapers" (pronunciated: riperi) is a geodetical term so it can be found in their literature, sometimes you can see them buried in asphalt they look like a metal bolt...

[MartinM]

Thank you again IgorG

I'm sorry - it seems we don't understand each other

pozdrav iz Rijeke

[Mirko]

Igor, you are great. I am a Croat, but still did not understand certain terms mentioned here.

[IgorG]

I had a year of geodezija in high school so most is from there but now I do work in building so they are near (geodeti), and I have to know a lot just to swim in this pool of s...t ...ah never mind

wobbleon about a sentence:

Reaperi se koriste kao referentne toèke prilikom triangulacije i prijenosa toèaka sa veæih udaljenosti.


did you mean like this? or should I scan something? ( I have a lot of tech books)

I see you use a dictionary, look at technical dict., there is an old one wich worked great, but I don't own one any more... I'll try to take look in encyclopedia...

now that you are asking me and I have to think about it, I could be it is spelled different like riperi? or reperi? because we talk different sometimes from what we write

[IgorG]

to continue... I see you are from Cres or near? there is a story, I don't know if it's true but....

when they (austo-hun) mesured Kvarner, Rijeka, etc. they used one peak on Cres to calculate everything else, and than map was drawn in Budapest, but they didn't know anything about Cres, so they used different peak, so everything was wrong, land and map was moved for some time before they figured what was wrong ;D

sometimes I think they never did repair this