Ruza
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Post by Ruza on Jul 28, 2004 18:47:27 GMT 1
Hello Everyone,
I just got an email from a friend of mine who is on holidays is Croatia. She sent me an email today and this is part of it.........
"I honestly would never ever date a Dalmatinac...they have no morals here whatsover....they all talk about "avantura" which means looking for affairs when they are married....its acceptable here and men are all pedophiles.....I cant explain it ...I will see if Hercegovina is like that also...honestly so shocking"
This is very disturbing to me.....I am moving to Croatia in a couple of months. Is this what my will children learn to be acceptable behavior? This is not the first time I have heard this, but now it comes from someone who I trust and whose opinion I value very much.
Any opinions/comments?
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Post by alsdoubles on Jul 28, 2004 22:51:44 GMT 1
Hello Everyone, I just got an email from a friend of mine who is on holidays is Croatia. She sent me an email today and this is part of it......... "I honestly would never ever date a Dalmatinac...they have no morals here whatsover....they all talk about "avantura" which means looking for affairs when they are married....its acceptable here and men are all pedophiles.....I cant explain it ...I will see if Hercegovina is like that also...honestly so shocking" This is very disturbing to me.....I am moving to Croatia in a couple of months. Is this what my will children learn to be acceptable behavior? This is not the first time I have heard this, but now it comes from someone who I trust and whose opinion I value very much. Any opinions/comments? Mmm. Amazed no-one else has commented. Let me comment in two (three abrupt words). This is ALL ! Sorry, four words. And sorry to be so abrupt, but...
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Post by patricia on Jul 28, 2004 22:59:25 GMT 1
that's ridiculous!
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Post by Anja on Jul 28, 2004 23:28:59 GMT 1
I think it happens everywhere in the world.. in Croatia no more than anywhere else.. To say that Croatian men have no morals is wrong.. There are people with high and low morals in all corners of this earth. Your friend just seems to be a bit upset.. she shouldn't be.. she should enjoy Croatia..it is summer and it is party in the air .. especially in hot areas..
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cc
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Post by cc on Jul 29, 2004 0:33:21 GMT 1
....its acceptable here and men are all pedophiles..... "men are all pedophiles"...where? in croatia? ? What the fcuk are you talking about? This is untrue and rude and idiotic and....I don't know. There may be some idiots everywhere in the world but at least in percentage there is at least fifty times less pedophiles in cro than in uk. And when they catch them there they won't let them go out easy as here in uk. About 'avantura', tell your friend to go to Greece...or Spain...or Italy...to see real 'avantura'
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Post by sweetpea on Jul 29, 2004 1:05:15 GMT 1
OUCH! I married a Dalmatian, and he is not any of those things. His uncles and cousins are definitely not paedophiles either, and take their marriages seriously. Croatian men are fond of children, certainly, and those I know are involved with their rearing and openly affectionate with them, but that's a far cry from paedophilia.
Paedophilia is not an accepted part of the culture - and as cc said, offenders are harshly sentenced when caught.
"Avantura" is a part of every culture. Remember the Mandy Rice-Davies scandal?
Europeans are no more or less accepting of extramarital relationships than anywhere else! The Prince Regent and his crowd comes to mind.
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Post by Shannon on Jul 29, 2004 8:56:02 GMT 1
Ruza, I'm not really suprised to hear a tourist say that about a tourist area.
All over the world, from Asia to Europe, especially in tourist areas, there are those people who are a little, uh, looser in their morals. I've found that with foreigners, local people tend to be a little less inhibited and feel free to express their desires. They might even exaggerate them. Anyone ever been to Thailand? Philippines? Cambodia? Greece or Spain? Even the Japanese could be accused of being 'paedophiles' and cheaters, and they pride themselves on their propriety, but it's a minority that give off that vibe.
Perhaps when tourists come, they don't meet the kind of people that keep to themselves, quiet family people, they meet the kind of people who like to party with foreigners. These are not the average Croatian, maybe. I haven't seen anything in my five months in Split that would indicate Dalmatian people are less moral, actually I find them pretty tame to other places I've been!!!!
I highly doubt Croatian people sit around, talking about their affairs, as if they were everyday occurances.
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Ruza
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Post by Ruza on Jul 29, 2004 14:48:02 GMT 1
Ooops........I didn't mean to offend anyone. I DIDN'T say I AGREE with my friend.......It just concerned me to hear that and I wanted you opinions. I just wanted to hear feedback. No harm intended I truly love Croatia..... I am also not naive........I know this happens EVERYWHERE....But I think what bothers me is that I've been told that wifes "accept" it. I suppose because they are financially dependant on their husbands. I feel bad for them if that is true. I guess as a woman from Canada that bothers me a little. Here, a woman can pick up and leave AND get just about everything. Shannon, I agree with your theory. They are probably stumbling upon the "attention seekers" -the ones that like to party with foreigners. They don't represent the average Dalmatinac. I also highly doubt the men are "paedophiles"...I am assuming that she meant these older men are hitting on the young teens...I don't know... Just as a mother, when I hear "paedophile" I go into panic mode....Please forgive me. I am from Canada you know....where paedophiles do not get harsh punishments at all. We have a BIG problem with them here. Our streets are crawling with scum bags> I know my children probably will be MUCH safer in Croatia than here.
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Ruza
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Post by Ruza on Jul 29, 2004 15:20:06 GMT 1
Am I? Thank you
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Post by alsdoubles on Jul 29, 2004 23:15:30 GMT 1
Am I? Thank you You can expect no more on message boards when any Richard head is allowed in. Spastic. Shocking aint it. Possibly you should delete more email than you read. I do. I read virtually nothing. Communication on the internet is, sadly, the pits. Croatia and Croatians are...okay. Be there and see it, then such emails are meaningless.
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Post by Natali on Aug 11, 2004 1:14:48 GMT 1
Wow! I've never heard of anything like this before. Here did your friend find these guys? I can not think of place where children are more loved and cherished. I hope your friends email hasn't soured you on Croatia. I think you will be very surprised at how much more freedom children there have. They playing outside on there own at a much younger age, take the buses into the city on there own, again at younger ages. Could it be because their parents feel more comfortable then anyone here possibly could? Has for "avantura" - you can find that type of man just about anywhere. Natali
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Ruza
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Post by Ruza on Aug 11, 2004 2:34:28 GMT 1
No, it hasn't soured me on Croatia ;D She didn't mean "little children" she meant that men make passes on young girls (ages 12, 13), which I find kinda gross personally. But I'm sure it happens everywhere unfortunately. She also said after the fact that there were a lot of great men she met too.....She was just upset because she met a few losers within a short period of time and witnessed some disturbing things and decided to vent... But, yes I agree children there do have a great childhood since they have a lot more freedom to run and play....
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