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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 0:40:56 GMT 1
Well.....I do not blame you for questioning my business sense , I went to school for Art and Design, not business. As well a little shop with 1 person working is not exactly a complex business structure or at least it never was until I got there.
I think it really came down to one word......"Uncertainty". If you are not at all used to living with that word it will destroy you fast and all of my time there that was clearly a constant.
Also you Euro folks and those from countries where the Government is always in your face.....or taxes and all of it. As an American there is no way you would have any experience dealing with that country is throwing at you.
My property here closed on a Friday and Monday morning it was in my name in the county records.......
What I am guilty of most is being too naive and too trusting and not aware that some of the things that occured with me in Croatia, you really have no protection from. I would enjoy a day with a baseball bat on a few liars I had to deal with but since I doubt I will ever return that is just a fantasy wish....lol. Here I would have at least 2 people to sue and 1 whose law license would have been revoked in a heartbeat for a big conflict of interest which is a criminal offense. When people can do to you whatever they choose, all knowing you are needing to trust them, there is really no way you can protect yourself........Never believe that things there are being done for you properly and if you are somewhat shy or reserved like I am then you are in big trouble
Remember when I bought all I needed was the property and d.o.o. and my residence was handled......I was doomed before I ever got on the plane and did not know it. So really my business skills did not help, but was not the end all to the story. I still get a pension check bigger than most there get in salary monthly.......and with totally paid for property, no yearly land taxes and just making even 5000 extra Kuna a month I am a king there. If I make nothing I am still living well.
Even to this day it does not seem like such a big problem to accomplish and really should not have been. My plan was good. You cannot control what laws a foreign country enacts, even if they are stupid laws. Nor can you control a country whose professionals take no feduciary responsibility because nobody is watching.
Well......thank you guys for the good words, I do hope to again find that guy willing to take a chance. Lately I am a bit overprotective of myself.....I do miss this forum but do not want to poison anyone elses dreams with my failure and far less than positive attitude so I stay out.
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Post by Ribaric on Jan 18, 2013 10:19:04 GMT 1
Stick around Bebe, your experience is worth... well, loads! to anyone else arriving in central Europe (not just Croatia) with expectations of dealing with a developed country. Please don't let the knuckle draggers pull you down, your sunny countenance shines right through all the crap you had to face. I guess it was a very expensive experience, in nerves as well as cash, but I'm sure you are now a more rounded person as a result.
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Post by avalon on Jul 13, 2013 8:05:51 GMT 1
1. Croatia had to transition from sot to being under imperialism ( or so called Washington Democracy) 2. 1/3 of Croatia was bombed/ wrong western borders and so on. 3. Croatia has expensive sot pension and health system. 4. Corruption and state property theft and transfer. Croatia is good country for retirement or wealthy middle class example living of rent/lease property in artificial country U.S,CAN,AUS. E.U is run by jews/new Yorker bankers it is design to turn Europe into multicultural hole like U.K and U.S through migration, jewish media and entertainment, no manufacturing and sell up of small farm holdings, so called global companies. Croatian people like any other race ( America is not race) have good and bad and has turbulent history and has been invade by great foreign powers including the disgusting ottomans. The only reason why U.S has not allow turks into eu is its used as American strategic military base. As we can see 44 million Europeans died in world war 2 for nothing just to allow itself to destroy without 1 bullet fired. England and France once great imperialist powers are now destroyed with English leaving and replace with asia/Africa and government detach from people as we can imagine this will spread through Europe at alarming pace especially with low/minus birth rates. Croatia finally got independence from nearly being wiped out by Serbs but under Washington/E,U imperialism it will be wiped out including the language. I know I sound like a nut but u will see Europe turning into a vegetable planet.
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Post by javier on Mar 22, 2014 21:22:46 GMT 1
So ..... It has been over 10 years since the very first opinion in this thred.
Some of them were that everything was going to be ok in the future. .. Well their future is now my present.
I want to move to HR, I am a croat descendent family, no need of visas and papers . SO ... it is still that horrible to live ??
Thanks
J.
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Post by amatesic on Mar 24, 2014 19:17:22 GMT 1
Hi, it all depends on where you want to live. I am a real estate agent and tell people not to go back to their home towns, instead look around at where you would like to live, forget the nostalgia and look for the conveniences that you want to have. I happily came back to my home town, which happened to be in the elite part of Zadar, a seaside village called Diklo, where a lot of returnees have landed even though they are not from Diklo, but from the surrounding areas of Zadar originally, and we have a good life. Also join some of the ex-pats facebook groups in Croatia ... we have one in Zadar, in Zadar we have an Association of Croatian Returnees and Immigrants "Croatian Home" ... that is Udruga Hrvatskih Povratnika i Doseljenika "Hrvatski Dom". On face book ... groups are ex-pats in Zadar, Croatian Home, Hrvatski Dom, Page is HrvatskiDomCroatianHome.
Also my neighbor is a french lady of Croatian heritage, does not speak Croatian very well, and virtually cries each time she has to go to France due to work for a couple of weeks each few months. Loves it in Croatia, but then she is doing the right thing ... do not purchase initially, rent, and see if you like it first. She is a translator and can work from anywhere, I know of a newspaper columnist living on one of the islands who can write about Croatia for english papers from home, I could work in my field, IT, or organizational development but cannot stand the work environment here, so I set up a real estate office, easy to learn the material, without even going to courses and sat the exam and answered their verbal exam questions and voila ... a license. So it all depends on your situation.
Email me direct and let me know where you plan to live and how to live and I can try to give you some advice.
BTW .... Not all of us are money grabbers ... some of us want people to have a good experience and be able to spread the word that living here was a positive experience.
Cheers ... Adrianna
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Post by Carol on Mar 24, 2014 20:53:16 GMT 1
IMO Croatia has changed since 2005 but the changes are what you might have predicted for 2 or 3 years, not 10.
Back in 2005 we thought that there would be dramatic changes and the place would be vastly different after 10 years, unrecognisable after 20. Instead its almost the same.
Observing the rule of law is one of the main improvements I have witnessed. 10 years ago people just completely ignored small laws like not driving the wrong way down a one-way street and now they are more likely to observe them. Maybe they are starting to observe some of the bigger societal ones too (like paying all their taxes??)
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Post by ivorbadic on May 29, 2014 9:16:17 GMT 1
Mate,
You almost got it right but you missed a key point. Living down south the people in Zagreb seem positively civilised compared to this lot of peasants. The reason they all drive like maniacs, behave like spoilt superstars, have no concept of fair play etc. is because the Croatians have a loose Y chromosome. Now this leads to a condition known as grandiose narcissism. For those of you you don't have degrees in psychology ( I do ) you should google the symptoms and you will quickly see what I mean. This in turn leads to a nation of people suffering delusions of grandeur.
Now this may all seem a bit harsh . Please don't get me wrong , I love Croatians and I have lived with a Croatian for a long, long time. but we cant escape the unfortunate truth. Having raised four children from Croatian parents in the western world away from the bad influence of peers in this country, it was still impossible to help them overcome their genetic weakness . The problem is further compounded by the fact that the loose chromosome prevents them from considering that there could be anything wrong with their behaviour.
My advice to our English friend if he wants to survive in this country is to follow the old saying - if you can beat them , join them. So I have done just this and am living happily now under my new local name , Ivor Badic. Because that's what they give me. The strategy involves becoming fully local-driving like I am on the F1 circuit;being as rude to everybody as often as possible; telling everyone that although I have never been 5 kilometres from where I was born this is the greatest place on earth ;trusting nobody and above all being on the lookout for a corruption opportunity at all times.
Ivor
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Post by menace on Jun 7, 2014 19:31:21 GMT 1
He,he,he Yep I smiled too, when I saw this bi yearly thread still going strong
First I Gotta give some respect to Bebewanna and all the others, who have been brave enough to open a business here and then hearing that they had to close down! I been here 6 years, after looking into starting a business, and baulking at the costs/bribes/payments while dormant that where involved I decided to join the millions looking for work. Now after hearing all sorts of stories of friends companies going under or being crippled by government taxes/fines/silly stuff and the constant stress...I really think I made the right choice, ok, i have to run the gauntlet of rogue bosses firing people at will and taking advantage of the lack of Employment protection...But I think, the most I need to worry about is not giving the boss a reason to fire me and making sure my full pay is in the bank. In 6 yrs whats changed, Hmmm...not a lot, the government think of new ways to get money from businesses, price fixing by those big supermarkets, zagrebacki holdings monopoly etc, holes in the road and old equipment get replaced only when its election time and its more evidently a country for the rich/well off and the poor/working class. Ivorbadic, is sort or close to the mark about some Croatian peoples attitude, sorry I aint got the time to give examples, but I'm sure you know what I mean. Though I have not resorted to the "cant beat 'em, join 'em" attitude...I am doing fine, avoiding petty arguments,"turning the other cheek" to stupidity and arrogance.
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Post by tackleberry on Jul 30, 2015 12:56:04 GMT 1
Im looking forward to going to live in Croatia.nothing has put me and the wife off ... and we all genuinely wish you every success with it tackleberry. Good luck! After living here since last June we are so glad we live here.we both love it
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Post by Carol on Jul 30, 2015 15:54:47 GMT 1
Ok, I'll bite... tell us why you love living in Croatia? Oh, and do you try to run a business in Croatia, or in any way earn a living?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 20:32:25 GMT 1
I had to comment on this.........
Now all of Croatias problems are the fault of we American Jews ....I wont say what I think about such ignorance because I dont want to make Anna upset but some things never change , very sad human being
My family were all shot and thrown into holes in Kyiv at Baba Yar...... and people wonder why we are militant
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Post by Carol on Aug 5, 2015 9:49:19 GMT 1
bebewanna - where do you get that idea from? Who said anything about Americans or jews?
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Post by ivetron on Aug 5, 2015 15:40:12 GMT 1
I seem to be a bit confused here. All of Croatians problems are due to American Jews? bebewanna, can you provide some additional background on this statement? "very sad human being". Are you referring to Croatians?
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Post by crojoe on Aug 5, 2015 16:38:54 GMT 1
I seem to be a bit confused here. All of Croatians problems are due to American Jews? bebewanna, can you provide some additional background on this statement? "very sad human being". Are you referring to Croatians? From what I have observed the Croatians haven't needed the Americans or the Jews to help get themselves into a tangle, they where able to do that all on their own. One thing many don't realize about Croatia is that it's small population are often lead about like sheep (just like any number of other countries), and those in influence enjoy the control they have on the country. Change should come easy in a country with such a small population, but guess some folks just like to make life tough for one and all. I have no doubt some influence comes from forign financial institutions, the EU no doubt and others, but Croatian leaders sure know how to complicate things. They could really clean up their act, but guess some have a bit of history they want to keep under lock & key. Since joining the EU I would say some things have gotten easier, MUP Zagreb now allow us foreigners to take a bingo number (no need to line up anymore like cattle to the slaughter), border crossing super easy and now it's easier to open a business (cheaper), although no real change to closing a business without high cost and waiting time. Buying stuff from other parts of the Eu also very easy. Also easier to stay in Croatia id you are an EU citizen (sorry, no real joy for Americans, although I see plenty of them about).
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Post by banjanti on Aug 10, 2015 20:13:46 GMT 1
I've went trough the thread, not encouraging at last to say Any positive changes with EU membership in regard to run a small business? I red somewhere corporation tax being at around 20%, that doesn't sound high at all in Europe terms! What about the prices? While kuna sinking on high USD trend (and my savings are USD) is it still unreasonable when it comes to daily life cost, real estate etc? I think kuna shrink more to usd then eur, but I've seen you said it was overpriced to start with.
If Spain is cheaper I see little reasons to take interest in Croatia from what I've read here and I'm already fluent in Spanish
I'm accustomed to stupid government and bureaucracy, but not over regulation In Bolivia where I've spend last 2 years country couldn't care less of what you do on your property, there is no building, electrical etc code
I want to settle in South Europe, but I don't want to end up in country that is even more messed up and difficult to live to Bolivia. That's the very reason I'm leaving
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