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Post by darcy on Nov 5, 2008 23:30:45 GMT 1
Then you are married to a Croat or whatever - the disease is obviously an infectious disease .
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Post by rijekafan on Nov 6, 2008 5:46:46 GMT 1
Mambo, why do you have to be such a rude know it all? First you accuse me of dishonesty and then Carol. The problem is not just that you accuse people of things but you dont pay attention to what they say. Is selling ice such a stressful business that it drives you to accuse people of improper behaviour? Its an almost comical concept, the the firebreathing, hot headed ice salesman Apart from being in Croatia, like I said Istria and Losinj have nothing in common as real estate markets. I did not build new flats but renovated old ones in a place of poor access. Building new ones would have been alot cheaper and easier. However if I was to new build on Losinj it would be far more expensive than the mainland for obvious reasons. As for going to properties without being a serious buyer, I am amazed you would admit to this. Lookers drive me and agents crazy and waste everyones time. Its simply a disrespectful to take up someones time for nothing.
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Post by darcy on Nov 6, 2008 6:45:11 GMT 1
Rijekafan,
I think we have a problem here and problem is more with you then with mambo. Sorry, but what is wrong with people just looking the properties. In marketing we call it "creating the needs". Agents in Croatia are fishing for 2-3% (two-three%) of the selling price for the property. Of course, they have to do something. More people goes thru the house, more people will, potentially, buy the house. The buyer (the one who is going to put the money on the table) does not know are people just looking or they are potential competitors. (I preffer 2-3 wifes with the rich husbands, in fact.)
I invite everybody (4 mils of Croats) to come and see my house as soon as it is ready to go to the market. And I do not need more then 2-3 buyers with the money to get what I want.
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Post by Madgolfer on Nov 6, 2008 8:46:55 GMT 1
Hi Darcy,
Again no, my wife is also British.
Im not sure what you are so scared to say ? You never seem to be slow about posting a biting comment or two so fire away.
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Post by darcy on Nov 6, 2008 10:21:13 GMT 1
Sorry, you might have a British passport, but you are very far away from being of British origin (at least for my standards of British people I know).
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Post by Madgolfer on Nov 6, 2008 11:22:47 GMT 1
Hi Darcy,
I find it very hard to understand what you are trying to get at when you write in such terms as your last post.
If you are in some way questioning my British origin, I was born in London and my family have lived there as far back as we can trace.
If you are saying that i have in some way lost my "British-ness" (not sure if that is a word or not) then i would like to whole heartedly thank you, it is something i have worked very hard at over the years. There are aspects of Croatian society which i would be proud to adopt over my British equivalent.
Anyone, but especially us Brits, who chooses to relocate to another Country and then refuses to try and fully integrate into or learn from that Country and people are, in my opinion, complete idiots. If we all tried to retain every aspect of our nationality, including the bad parts, then the world will remain a tribal society forever.
I say "especially" us Brits as we have a tendency to assume that the British empire still rules the world and that all other people should be subservient. Integration into a new culture requires work on both sides or you end up with minority enclaves based on nationality and/or religion which eventually leads to the sort of tensions we have seen in many parts of the UK over past few decades.
If you are of that opinion that "British is Best" I feel very sorry for you as you are unlikely to find happiness anywhere in the world with that outdated and aloof attitude.
I am proud to be British, as any one who knows me will confirm. We still command a good deal of respect around the world, our language is widely spoken and historically we have been responsible for many good things on the planet.
I fly the flag of St George outside my house whenever any of our national teams play on the world stage and attend many sporting events wearing my England rugby or football shirts etc.
My business is aimed primarily at British clients and I try to explain to all of them the value of trying to integrate into the Croatian society as much as possible.
If I have interpreted or read your comments wrongly, please do try and explain in clearer terms exactly what you meant and I will amend my post accordingly.
After all this is an open forum and you are free to say whatever you please within reason.
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Post by rijekafan on Nov 6, 2008 12:57:30 GMT 1
Rijekafan, I think we have a problem here and problem is more with you then with mambo. Sorry, but what is wrong with people just looking the properties. If it is an open house situation that is different but why should one give up ones time for people who have no intention of buying anything. Does selling a property mean that you have to provide bored people with entertainment or fodder for mere stickybeaks? Are sellers meant to be running some sort of charitable society for bored people? It takes time to prepare a property for inspection. If the property is being rented there is much inconvienience for the tenant. I would never waste the time of someone when I had no intention of buying anything.
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Post by mambo on Nov 6, 2008 22:06:47 GMT 1
Rijekafan,
Can you please tell me where I accused you of dishonesty. You have made this claim now a couple of times, but I am still curious to where I have said that. All I stated was that 2200 euro/m2 is not a bargain, not even (or should I say, especially) in Losinj. Is that, according to you, accusing someone of dishonesty ?
In your point of view this 2200 euro/m2 is a correct price and perhaps it is, but like I said..........don't call it a bargain. That was all I stated and the next thing I know is that you say I accused you of dishonesty.
Strange way of reasoning if you ask me.
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Post by darcy on Nov 6, 2008 22:16:40 GMT 1
Madgolfer,
Integration other societies into Western societies or integration of the Western societies into other societies (any way will do, just pick), does not mean the loss of the cultural identity on either side. Obama is the best example - a black man winning the white protestant game - that is the success!
As soon as other cultures are prapared to show their genetic superiority (like Obama did), I will be very happy to sing "Liepa nasa". Alter all, I am just a Dutch and for us any currency of value is OK.
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Post by Aleksandra on Nov 7, 2008 1:32:23 GMT 1
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Post by darcy on Nov 7, 2008 5:17:52 GMT 1
If it is an open house situation that is different but why should one give up ones time for people who have no intention of buying anything. Does selling a property mean that you have to provide bored people with entertainment or fodder for mere stickybeaks? Are sellers meant to be running some sort of charitable society for bored people? It takes time to prepare a property for inspection. If the property is being rented there is much inconvienience for the tenant. I would never waste the time of someone when I had no intention of buying anything. Yes, selling the house means entertainment (Misho Kovach, U2, Thompson), free sousages, by-standers and neighbours, of course - maybe they want to sell as well and they are thinking how to list their property, students of architecture, designers, free flight for the buyers if necessary, it all depends on the price and the buyer. It means availability at any time, unless you have the tennants, when you say - sorry, I have the tennants, could we please ... When you have tennants, you need to be prapred to settle for less. I remember when I was buying a house long time ago and the RE agent said to me "I am a little bit crook today, take the keys, have a look." I had signed the same day for almost the listed price. Great site Aleksandra, thanks a lot, it wil keep me busy over the weekend.
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