|
|
Post by capio on Aug 24, 2010 20:21:45 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by mambo on Aug 24, 2010 22:15:09 GMT 1
Wonder what happened with the cat.
But I would love to do the same with that woman, dump her in a somewhat bigger garbage container.............the garbage truck !
|
|
|
|
Post by crojoe on Aug 25, 2010 9:19:37 GMT 1
Ok, dumping a cat is bad, but the outrage from some humans, like death threats and what not is insane. I was actually trying to explain this situation to a Croatian friend. While he thought that murders and big criminals get away with a lot in the UK, this situation seems bazaar to him. All of a sudden every agency is on the case, everyone is "shocked", the woman’s life is even in danger and now requires police protection. His point of view was... is a cat’s life more important in the UK then persons? Does an animal have more rights? I'm not for cruelty towards animals, but I too think this thing went too far, and in essence those people posting this on utube are now guilty of endangering the woman’s life and very irresponsible. Obviously she is a bit mental, hates cats or even has something in for the owners of this property. Will be interesting to see what transpires. Anyway, I'll be installing CCTV on the outside of my house to keep an eye on all.
|
|
|
|
Post by mambo on Aug 25, 2010 10:34:31 GMT 1
@ Crojoe,
There is absolutely no excuse for the behavior of this woman or for any other people who abuse animals.
Most animals cannot defend themselves against human beings and depend on 'civilized' human beings to protect them. This woman on the video planned to kill the cat and instead of killing the cat directly she chose for the slow way of doing it.
Just in case you don't understand what the cat would have gone through (still don't know whether the cat lived or not), if it would have been summer with 35 degrees ..........she would have cooked the cat inside that plastic garbage can. Wonder how she would have liked that.
An animal life is not more valuable than a human being, but I don't think that the outrage is about that. The outrage has, most likely, more to do with the torture and the cruelty to a defenseless animal.
For only 3 weeks friends of mine found a dog again on the road to Buzet, obviously beaten, hungry and wounds around his neck where the chain had been.
They took him home, took care of him and now I took him to Holland. He is doing fine, is a sweet dog, very friendly, does not bark, friendly with children, loves to be in a car and he is on his way to a new home........a family with 3 children.
And we find dogs like this in Istria almost every week.
We only wonder what goes on in the minds of these Croats that they treat animals like this ? What has the dog done to deserve this treatment ?
Apparently animals have no value to Croatians.
So I have no problem treating them the same way.
|
|
|
|
Post by 3lions on Aug 25, 2010 11:13:37 GMT 1
Ok, dumping a cat is bad, but the outrage from some humans, like death threats and what not is insane. I was actually trying to explain this situation to a Croatian friend. While he thought that murders and big criminals get away with a lot in the UK, this situation seems bazaar to him. All of a sudden every agency is on the case, everyone is "shocked", the woman’s life is even in danger and now requires police protection. His point of view was... is a cat’s life more important in the UK then persons? Does an animal have more rights? I'm not for cruelty towards animals, but I too think this thing went too far, and in essence those people posting this on utube are now guilty of endangering the woman’s life and very irresponsible. Obviously she is a bit mental, hates cats or even has something in for the owners of this property. Will be interesting to see what transpires. Anyway, I'll be installing CCTV on the outside of my house to keep an eye on all. I guess she will be prosecuted under the Cruelty to Animals Act. I read a case recently where a man was prosecuted because he drowned a common squirrel. The act of drowning was ruled as causing it unnecessary suffering. I think he recieved a prison term, could be wrong. |
|
|
|
Post by 3lions on Aug 25, 2010 11:18:10 GMT 1
@ Crojoe, There is absolutely no excuse for the behavior of this woman or for any other people who abuse animals. Most animals cannot defend themselves against human beings and depend on 'civilized' human beings to protect them. This woman on the video planned to kill the cat and instead of killing the cat directly she chose for the slow way of doing it. Just in case you don't understand what the cat would have gone through (still don't know whether the cat lived or not), if it would have been summer with 35 degrees ..........she would have cooked the cat inside that plastic garbage can. Wonder how she would have liked that. An animal life is not more valuable than a human being, but I don't think that the outrage is about that. The outrage has, most likely, more to do with the torture and the cruelty to a defenseless animal. For only 3 weeks friends of mine found a dog again on the road to Buzet, obviously beaten, hungry and wounds around his neck where the chain had been. They took him home, took care of him and now I took him to Holland. He is doing fine, is a sweet dog, very friendly, does not bark, friendly with children, loves to be in a car and he is on his way to a new home........a family with 3 children. And we find dogs like this in Istria almost every week. We only wonder what goes on in the minds of these Croats that they treat animals like this ? What has the dog done to deserve this treatment ? Apparently animals have no value to Croatians. So I have no problem treating them the same way. I am not particularly an animal person but I have taken food to a couple of alsatians in Croatia because they are left chained up all day as guard dogs. Well no wonder they are just a bit aggressive, so would any creature be if they were chained up all day. Sad stuff. |
|
|
|
Post by crojoe on Aug 25, 2010 12:49:27 GMT 1
It's really an international problem. The world can't eradicate hunger, poverty in people; so neither will cruelty to animals end. Go to Asia and you will be shocked. Many animals in Western countries live like humans, while their counterparts are abused and starved.
Seems it was done in jest (as stated by the woman interviewed), although seems she isn't quite sure what to do or say. Since it is not a police matter, she most likely has no access to a lawyer.
Just for Mambo's info, the cat lived and the weather wasn't 35 degrees.
Also, most Croatians treat their pets like a member of the family, good food, walks and play-time, not to mention nice accommodation.
I think Croatians are going to need police protection from Mambo.
If it was me, I would have shown the footage to the police or animal cops, and not posted it on the internet.
|
|
|
|
Post by mambo on Aug 25, 2010 15:47:20 GMT 1
@ Crojoe,
They don't need police protection from me, they will have to protect themselves from the police. It may be completely new to you, but even Croatia has rules and regulations HOW to treat an animal.
If people don't comply you can call the veterinarian or the police. Usually the vet is enough, they will call inspectors who will go and take a look.
And yes, I have done that and many others have done that already. If you think this is overdoing it then I guess you don't care that much about animal rights.
BTW, the outrage in the world was so big that they quickly found out who this woman was/is, it is Mary Bale and her address, telephone number etc have been published world wide. She now has police protection ! Lol
I don't think she will do this again, but she still gets her day in court.
|
|
|
|
Post by capio on Aug 25, 2010 16:19:18 GMT 1
Injuring animals for no cause other than self satisfaction is a classic sign of sociopathic behaviour. It's difficult to have any sympathy for a woman whose only remorse is based upon the consequences she faces because of her actions.
I loathe cats... but anybody that is cruel to any animal baffles me. It's like men who beat women and adults who beat children. Attacking the defenseless.
Mambo animals rights laws exist in Croatia but like most of their laws they're not adhered too, the treatment of animals is primitive at best by a lot of people there... it's difficult to be too judgmental because I'm sure the way they treat them was acceptable here 50 years ago too and won't be acceptable there soon enough.
This woman however is barbaric ... such an instance like that is not an act of opprtunity... it's a behavioural pattern. She was simply caught this time.
For example... if somebody left their front door open would you walk in and steal their TV? I know I wouldn't... and I'm sure all the people on this forum wouldn't... but a habitual larcenist would.
The likelihood is this piece of trash has committed many similar instances over her lifetime.
|
|
|
|
Post by 3lions on Aug 25, 2010 17:52:11 GMT 1
It's really an international problem. The world can't eradicate hunger, poverty in people; so neither will cruelty to animals end. Go to Asia and you will be shocked. Many animals in Western countries live like humans, while their counterparts are abused and starved. True, but a bit defeatist! Or realist! or whatever ;D |
|
|
|
Post by crojoe on Aug 25, 2010 19:52:45 GMT 1
realist!
|
|
|
|
Post by pinkfloyd on Aug 26, 2010 1:20:20 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by capio on Aug 27, 2010 11:26:03 GMT 1
The Cat strikes back
|
|
|
|
Post by pinkfloyd on Aug 31, 2010 13:36:42 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by ray51 on Sept 1, 2010 16:30:51 GMT 1
These pups being thrown into the water was all over the net ;
do we know yet : where it happenned ?
|
|
