grubl
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Post by grubl on Jan 22, 2013 13:15:05 GMT 1
Hello, I have learned that it is possible to legalise one single apartment within a house with several apartments.
The house I'm talking about has a building permit (built in 2002), but nobody ever applied for a usage permit. As I do not want to wait until the other (+10) owners make up their mind if they want to apply for legalisation, I want to go ahead and get the usage permit for my apartment asap.
Anybody knows how to go about that? OR can anybody recommend an agency or trustworthy lawyer in the Rijeka/Krk area who can help with that?
Thanks, Berni
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Post by Ribaric on Jan 23, 2013 10:05:39 GMT 1
Where did you hear this ? S'far as I know it can only be obtained for the whole building ? Is also my understanding.
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grubl
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Post by grubl on Jan 23, 2013 12:28:14 GMT 1
Hi Guys, I have read this in another Forum. I currently try to get the specific part of the legislation via mail. Will keep you posted! ciao, berni
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Post by Carol on Jan 23, 2013 14:29:50 GMT 1
Where did you hear this ? S'far as I know it can only be obtained for the whole building ? Is also my understanding. me three...!
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Post by amatesic on Feb 25, 2013 14:39:15 GMT 1
Firstly, you do not necessarily need a use permit, it all depends on the year built the building was built ... prior to 1992 there were only building permits. And yes you can get a use permit for only your apartment .... apply for a Uvjerenje za uporabu funkcionalne jedinice građevine if it has a building permit. Fill out the form at www.mgipu.hr/doc/Uvjerenje_za_uporabu_funkcionalne_jedinice.pdf and submit to your building authority.
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zappia
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Post by zappia on Mar 20, 2013 5:16:47 GMT 1
Hi. Amatesic, this all sounds very interesting as I am in panic mode due to the legalisation date of July 2013. In Porec I have an apartment, one of six in a building. I purchased in 2004 and I have the building permit document, however I do not have an 'Uporabna Dosvola'. I have had problems trying to find out exactly when the building was built as there are conflicting opinions because although the new building was built after 1992 it was built on the site of an older building. Also 3 of the six owners have not been paying communal maintenance costs and will be very reluctant to pay anything towards any legalisation documents. So, as far as I see it, I will personally have to pay for everything which will run into thousands of pounds (yet everyone in the building will benefit at no cost to them!) or, I will be illegal and not able to start renting out my property or have the necessary documents when I want to sell.
I want to check with you knowledgeable guys the following:
In my situation would I be able to get the necessary legalisation if I used Amatesic's link above, as I like others thought you could only get an 'Uporabna Dosvola' for the whole building?
If I did go this route would this approval allow me to get a tourist licence to rent out my property and the proper document when it comes time to sell, i.e. just the same as it would be if it were a proper 'Uporabna Dosvola'?
I would be most grateful for any advice and also to know if anyone has been through the same problem.
Many thanks!
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Post by mh on Mar 20, 2013 22:20:52 GMT 1
Opportunity? Convert 5% of all non-residential property into the shares in Croatian shipyards.
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Post by crojoe on Mar 20, 2013 23:09:33 GMT 1
Opportunity? Convert 5% of all non-residential property into the shares in Croatian shipyards. Just pay your taxes MH and you'll help the shipyard.
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Post by amatesic on May 6, 2013 21:17:45 GMT 1
I went to the Forum for Real Estate agents this past weekend and asked the Minister of Building regards what happens after June 30 if one does not legalize their property. If it is a standalone house or outbuilding, the inspector will come to your door some time in the future, and you will have to pay a fine for not legalizing the building, they will give you a date by which you must put in the paperwork to legalize the building or they will give you a decision to have the building removed either you can do on your own or they will and bill you.
In the case that there is a big building and some apartment owners legalize their apartments ... and others don't, the entire building will be legalized and the apartment owners who did not contribute will have to be taken to court for their share of the costs. There apartment will however be legal whether you take them to court or not.
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Post by Carol on May 7, 2013 7:48:13 GMT 1
amatesic... did anyone ask the minister what happens if the property ownership is not clean and the building doesn't have a usage permit? Do they still take the "owners" to court and if so, how much resources are they going to put into finding them?
If they are going to leave the ownership unclean, but leave a huge fine (with interest and late penalty payments accruing) for the real owner(s) when someone does finally clean up the ownership, then that will mean even more unclean properties.
Or, will the tax office get so fed up with all the money owed that they will seize the property in lieu of payment?
Sounds like a mess to me, and the solution will be the same as always i.e. leave the complicated situations for next generation.
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