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Post by svugrek on Aug 31, 2004 3:17:16 GMT 1
If you can't come up with something related to this topic, but telling me I was too young to experience 'real' Yugoslavia then don't post anything. I don't have time for a private chat here. Mr. Viva UK
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Post by Aimra on Aug 31, 2004 3:30:21 GMT 1
Dont cry kiddo , everything will be okay.
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Post by svugrek on Aug 31, 2004 4:30:27 GMT 1
umm, yes ? you okay ?
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Post by Airma on Aug 31, 2004 15:24:05 GMT 1
Yes Im great, thanks for asking, but I am worried about you, I dont want you to get all teary on me! Cya, sport
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Post by TomB on Aug 31, 2004 16:21:12 GMT 1
Svugrek, thanks for coming to this forum (the most popular CROforum in English) and for explaining things. Graet!
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Post by Jiras on Aug 31, 2004 17:54:26 GMT 1
Its great not graet.
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Post by no nationality on Sept 23, 2004 12:22:08 GMT 1
Why are you pasting an article Airma if you can't even understand what it means? As you stated before yourself... If you don't understand something, then how do you know you are correct in what you are saying? I am also Croatian and I admit to all the attrocities Croats comitted, but you seem to believe that Serbia is not responsible for anything ? Why is the whole world trying to bring your WAR CRIMINALS to hague ?? Because they were doing what, playing chess Who was Arkan Airma ? He was a hero ? I don't think you know anything, my guess is that your parents brought you to another country when you were young, before any of this happened and you did not even soe with normal serbian people, otherwise you would hear what they think. So you decided to become this fanatic because you feel like you lost touch with your country. Well news for you, most Serbs are good people who are embarassed of what they did. The only ones that think they way you do are foreign serbs and hardcore fanatics like Arkan or your parents (the ones that taught you all this crap) Same goes for Croatians. P.S. Stop pasting articles from www.srpskamreza.com, it is obviously one sided. Try reading articles from independent sources or from UN (but you would call them liars too) even though they blame us as well as Serbs. Of course, you would call them liars too. The whole world is lying except srpskamreza.com and Slobodan Milosevic.
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Post by Point on Sept 24, 2004 8:55:52 GMT 1
To Aimra and the rest of the serbs that come on this site, please, PLEASE .........come and visit beautiful CROATIA while your there you can stop in knin and reminisce of good times
Like OLJUA 95 ;D
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Post by Boban on Sept 24, 2004 20:09:54 GMT 1
;D ;D
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Post by BlueMouse on Nov 8, 2004 14:26:17 GMT 1
am reading this all and cannot help thinking how somebody from aside can only think how 2 tribes are arguing over same issue over and over frankly , croatian side lack materials and arguments published over the world and over the web to prove their stand typical foreigner can only believe that truth is somewhere in the middle , because that typical one will not waste time and effort to dig for a truth I only hope that people from outside wont think that visiting croatia is dangerous and risky
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Post by pacificstar on Nov 8, 2004 15:03:05 GMT 1
I went to Croatia to visit my family back in July. You can't believe all the American's that asked me "is it safe"? Even last night I was talking to my husbands cousin who lives in the States and told him about my wonderful trip and he asked the same question.
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Post by Dalmatinac on Nov 8, 2004 15:15:33 GMT 1
Anyone who makes reference to srpska mreza is a thingy period
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Post by Dalmatinac on Nov 8, 2004 15:17:39 GMT 1
Airma, don't hate the truth just accept it and move on with life, you will always be a wanna be Croat and you will always want to have the culture and traditions we have. It will never happen.
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Post by Chris on Nov 21, 2004 22:46:22 GMT 1
Despite the differences between you, by reading the posts you have sent very carefully, I believe I have at least some small idea of the complexity of the differences between the two sides and certainly more knowledge than before. But I would like to ask a couple of questions
Did the Serbs ever recognise the right of Croatia to exist as a Sovereign State before the war? Do they recognise it now? (I understand the point about the Croats being a people and not a nation state)
Secondly, I had always had the impression that the different religious views of the two sides was a very important factor. It seems from the posts that it was not so important. What would you say to that?
Finally, might it be true to say that the final outcome could well have been different if Russia had not herself collapsed at this time, in that I seem to remember from my history lessons that they were always the traditional ally of Serbia.
Thanks you guys and though the whole thing is full of emotion, try not to get dragged down too much into the personal criticism stuff. Leave the reader to decide which version they believe or which parts they believe.
Chris
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Post by BlueMouse on Nov 24, 2004 14:49:44 GMT 1
ok, will try to make it as simple as possible yugoslavia was a state where serbs were really colonists , they had a main word about everything while tito was alive and while loans were coming regularly , all was ok (plus the fact that anyone who said something different "disappeared") in meantime , yugoslavs had "better" version of communism then others , more open and closer to viewing western way of life then , in some time , loans stopped to come and serbia started to play agressive to other countries in yugoslavia under pressure , countries startewd to demand their independecy and that was taken as a signal that serbia , who was controling army and most of police , should take as much as they can , before demokracy and new world order sets in idea was to clean everything in area from non-serb people and to gain exit to the sea and as much territory as possible result: war , so bloody , that is hard to understand, with crimes on serbian side that is unimaginable even soem UN soldiers ended in psyhiatric treatements , because what they saw was too much and yes , it was too much , too much to see and too much to experience and certainly too much to explain to somebody normal who didnt see it with own eyes
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