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Sept 13, 2005 21:10:12 GMT 1
Post by irac2 on Sept 13, 2005 21:10:12 GMT 1
sorry there just not so/tbt, you do know Croatia hasn't fulfilled the majority of the criteria, neither have Serbia, Bosnia, Turkey (by a long way), Romania et al, some of the ones Croatia are missing on are glaring too! Like lack of rights for it's own citizens, poor policing, lack of a professional/standing army as well as the high amount of assaults, rapes and beatings in the same (I think it's probably no worse than Russia or probably even the States/UK in that, maybe). A lot is political, but also the fact that Croatia has yet to reconstruct itself top to bottom is also a problem. It'll take time, but a little clarity would help. Ireland, at the time was close as makes no difference to the EEC guidelines, which were not quite so tough back then, one of the main criteria for our government was to recognise the legitimacy of foreign rule on part of the island, which they did and now we've (happily) given up claim to it, and from weekend's fun in East Belfast, who'd have it!!!
And a little matter of Hercegovina there tbt, that's a kinda nasty episode initiated by Croats, with death camps and so on, as well as Croatian Army regulars in action in Bosnia (first with Bosnian forces then against), as well as the classic ethnic cleanser of Oluja.
It'll take time but in 2010 it'll be worth it, plus it'll giv Zagreb more time to think of how to pocket more funds for themselves!
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Sept 13, 2005 21:21:15 GMT 1
Post by MidgeZg on Sept 13, 2005 21:21:15 GMT 1
Yeah, I was referring to that chaos and this present day reality.
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Sept 14, 2005 3:41:42 GMT 1
Post by croam on Sept 14, 2005 3:41:42 GMT 1
Truth be Told: who are you? are you registered under a different name? regarding Davids english-british-croat connection i didn't ask but i alluded. I could care less. But if he's a government propagandist then he's not a very covert one, thats all i was saying. Plus, I don't claim to know the "truth" because I know that I will never have all the information. Why would i tell you where i live in America if I don't know you? Hmmmmn. Don't you think we should talk first before I invite you over for sleepovers and barbecues?
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Sept 14, 2005 9:18:28 GMT 1
Post by No TanLines on Sept 14, 2005 9:18:28 GMT 1
Truth be Told: who are you? are you registered under a different name? regarding Davids english-british-croat connection i didn't ask but i alluded. I could care less. But if he's a government propagandist then he's not a very covert one, thats all i was saying. Plus, I don't claim to know the "truth" because I know that I will never have all the information. Why would i tell you where i live in America if I don't know you? Hmmmmn. Don't you think we should talk first before I invite you over for sleepovers and barbecues? Ohh could I spend the nite over at your mom's house if you promise to bbq lamb. I am in America also but I am in Napa and I think you said you are in Ohio right? I come on under a few names, I totally see eye to eye with you, Dubro-Warrior, Ghost and bright side. The other's here are idiots. I know Ghost and a few of his friends and relatives that occasionally post that are here in America. I don't come on that often because I work and take classes at nite. I finally called Ghost and he was banned by the stupid admin. It really does not matter to him anyway because he is going back in a few days to Osijek and in another month he is back in the states doing a job that will keep him here for a few months so I will get to see him personally. There are actually quite a few of us that come on. It all started with Love U2 who is related to us. She is the one that told us about the site and the garbage that is posted here by Emiz. That is how we all found this site. Yes we all protect each other but we have found that there is some others that we don't know that have come on and posted the same things as us. We have also figured out that the admin Anna has banned a few of our family members but really without success because it is so easy to get different IP addresses. We also found that she is very one-sided and she will erase majority of posts that are written by Croatians. Some of us have written to her asking for an explanation of why she deletes posts that have no cursing or threats. Just opinions favoring Croatia or protecting Croatia against false rumors. She will not answer. We have come up with this explanation amoung us. That she is probably born in England and has no loyalty to her roots. This site is just a way for her to make money in the travel industry and such. That is the only way to explain why she has deleted your posts and others that come here or do come here under different names now. Like one of them is Tip Rat. Yes the guy could curse up a storm but when he did write something that was okay or against emiz it was immediatly deleted. Same thing with my relative LoveU2 banned but she continued to come for a while with another name and Ip address. Which now she can not come on to the forum anymore anyway because she just had a baby. I drove to see her about a week ago, she lives a couple of hours from me. We have a huge family. You know how us Croatians can be. hahaha. I am younger than that group, her, Ghost(Tomo) are older than me. Quite a few of them went to school together when they were younger. I think a majority of our family that use to come on this forum alot have given up because of the crap that keeps going on with the same people. You know who I am talking about, Emiz who has now changed his name 6 or 7 times, Irac, Midge who has gone under different names, Noddy, 3 Lions who also has changed his name several times. I am probably wasting my time trying to write this because the UK princess Anna will probably delete this. Anything that might make her look bad including the truth she erases. hahaha. Anyway if you are ever in Napa. Start a thread to contact me and I will give you my email and address. I am your age and it would be fun to get together with someone from Ohio. My Dad came by way of Cleveland, Ohio. Do you know the Croatian church there? He use to go there before moving to California with Loveyou2's parents. I think alot of Croatians started out on the east coast only to migrate toward the west coast which is alot like Croatia weather wise. Anyway if we do get in contact I will tell you all the other relatives and friends that use to come on and some that still do. By the way I did find that strange that the new emiz is now saying he works with the military. I did not know that there was a large population of americans living in Zagreb. Did you? I will have to talk to another relative about this? Also I will tell you what happened with Tomo and what he knows about Irac and what he say's he will be doing about it. I also saw that you just visited Croatia. How often do you go. I go all the time, it is a blast. I have the best time there. Anyway I have to go I have to finish a paper on mecury and autism in children and I am only half done. I needed a break. I am not kidding about that bbq either. I love lamb and would do just about anything for a great piece.... a great piece of lamb that is...haha. Take care.
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Sept 14, 2005 10:54:37 GMT 1
Post by davidzg on Sept 14, 2005 10:54:37 GMT 1
ghost, I think it is fair to say, that you need help. I think a break from this forum is exactly what you need
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Sept 14, 2005 10:56:57 GMT 1
Post by MidgeZg on Sept 14, 2005 10:56:57 GMT 1
I wish EMIZ was here to see this Ghost saga
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irac2
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Sept 14, 2005 13:06:47 GMT 1
Post by irac2 on Sept 14, 2005 13:06:47 GMT 1
I really don't get this, it could be to do with the clear spring water we drink up here, or the rare air, or maybe that I'm confused with the tactics and changes.
So all these people, they're all the same family? Oh man, and they all back each other and they're the only sane ones (oh, and Croam, who rubbished more than one of two of them) and we're all nuts and only say bad things about the country....hmm, I remember some of that clan saying bad things about the country, some pretty direct and, I said it then and now, correct things, but then some horrendous lies and slanders. So is this what the "family time" for them is, they all post under different names and discuss who they insulted last.
Please, enlighten me as it's too unbelievable.
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Sept 14, 2005 14:24:04 GMT 1
Post by gavul on Sept 14, 2005 14:24:04 GMT 1
I can't see how they can suggest that a select other few are trying to dominate this forum with their views, when in fact they are admiting now that that is exactlay what they are trying to do by banding the whole family together + friends to support each others opinions on subjects they can't know that much about because admitedly the majority of them are in the U.S ! Either it's a serious case of multiple personality disorder, or it's a well orchistrated family conspiracy. I've haven't heard of anything so laughable since Emiz kept changing his stories.
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Sept 14, 2005 16:07:53 GMT 1
Post by noddy on Sept 14, 2005 16:07:53 GMT 1
wow, i'm amazed! (although i couldn't care less)
the style of writing seems to be a genetic thing. i'll write a paper on that. i'm sure i'll have no problems with getting into CC listed journals.
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Sept 14, 2005 16:22:49 GMT 1
Post by noddy on Sept 14, 2005 16:22:49 GMT 1
so what will your conclusion be? is mercury (thimerosal?, tuna?) the cause of autism?
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Sept 14, 2005 18:15:15 GMT 1
Post by Croatian star on Sept 14, 2005 18:15:15 GMT 1
This is funny!
Look who posted after tanline posted. Exactly the same people that were mentioned in the post. How funny. No I will not give my real name either just like some of the others. I don't want to be a target to the shooters in the shooting range. It becomes quite ugly when they get together.
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irac2
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Sept 14, 2005 18:49:24 GMT 1
Post by irac2 on Sept 14, 2005 18:49:24 GMT 1
crostar, do you not find it a little weird the one family and group of friends have nothing better to do than gang up on those who post here? They share the exact same opinions, writing styles and ugly reponses to those who don't agree with them. If it's a case that the ghost has been banned, I understand (in ways) why, slander and defamation of character has no place in discussion, you can't disagree with this as namecalling and such nasty diatribes help nobody.
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Sept 14, 2005 19:09:03 GMT 1
Post by Anna on Sept 14, 2005 19:09:03 GMT 1
Okay, this is now being discussed in TWO different threads (thanks for posting the same message twice ) so can we please NOT continue this in this thread - if you wish to discuss this issue, please do it in the "Croam" thread in Off Topic board. If people want to carry on the original discussion, that's cool. Oh, and a question was raised somewhere else about whether threads can be separated. This would be a really, REALLY useful feature, but unfortunately it's not possible on these boards!
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