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Post by Ribaric on Jun 9, 2016 14:56:50 GMT 1
For those of us who are UK citizens who wish to remain EU citizens in the event of a Brexit, it seems we cannot get dual nationality (by becoming Croatian nationals) unless your spouse is a Croatian national. Otherwise, you must revoke your UK citizenship when you achieve Croatian nationality by naturalisation. In this sense 'citizenship' and 'nationality' are interchangeable terms. As a personal choice, I do not wish for the UK to leave the EU (and take me with it) and, as I am married to a Croatian national, I can get dual citizenship.
This post is more about getting thoughts from others rather than broadcasting information. So, UK people, what are your thoughts?
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Post by happy on Jun 9, 2016 18:53:40 GMT 1
For those of us who are UK citizens who wish to remain EU citizens in the event of a Brexit, it seems we cannot get dual nationality (by becoming Croatian nationals) unless your spouse is a Croatian national. Otherwise, you must revoke your UK citizenship when you achieve Croatian nationality by naturalisation. In this sense 'citizenship' and 'nationality' are interchangeable terms. As a personal choice, I do not wish for the UK to leave the EU (and take me with it) and, as I am married to a Croatian national, I can get dual citizenship. This post is more about getting thoughts from others rather than broadcasting information. So, UK people, what are your thoughts? Probably the best article I have seen on the referendum issues in today's Guardian, written by Tory grandee Chris Patten. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/07/brexiteers-eu-economyIt is a balanced essay why does not use hyperbole and attacks no-one. It is easy to read and examines the facts dispassionately, including the business prospects, growth and immigration. He provides a sweeping review of the post-war progress of the UK economy both before and after EU membership. He lays out the facts. Read it if you dare!
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Post by Carol on Jun 9, 2016 18:54:54 GMT 1
I don't think there will be a vote for Brexit. The polls are neck and neck but people always get cold feet on their way to the polling booth. The political analysts are putting the risk of Brexit around 24% at the moment. www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-brexit-watch/Oddly enough, i think if there is a terrorist attack on the UEFA Euro 2016 games before the 23rd, then the risk of Brexit will incxrease as people want to pull up the drawbridge!
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Post by Carol on Jun 9, 2016 19:00:35 GMT 1
People don't usually accuse the Guardian of being balanced, so i was interested to read the article. I've just got to line 7 and come across this: "sour, xenophobic English nationalism"... and with those words the chance of the rest of the article is balanced fades beyond reasonable hope
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Post by happy on Jun 9, 2016 19:08:40 GMT 1
People don't usually accuse the Guardian of being balanced, so i was interested to read the article. I've just got to line 7 and come across this: "sour, xenophobic English nationalism"... and with those words the chance of the rest of the article is balanced fades beyond reasonable hope Just out of interest ........... are you a Croat?
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Post by Carol on Jun 9, 2016 19:48:30 GMT 1
no, I'm Carol. I name changed
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Post by fidobsa on Jun 10, 2016 18:20:37 GMT 1
I think even if UK does leave the EU it will remain part of the EEA so Brits should be able to operate in Croatia much as they do now. I do wonder if there will be a long term weakening of the £ though, that would affect all of us who derive an income from UK.
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Post by Carol on Jun 10, 2016 18:55:38 GMT 1
I think the strength of the pound would depend on how successful the Uk would be at re-energising itself as a trading nation with non-EU countries.
IMHO the EU is dying a slow, very painful death. It is in terminal decline and I can't imagine what will save it from itself. The worst of it is that the bureaucrats who run the EU don't even seem to realise what's happening.
If the Uk remains shackled to the EU, it will continue along the path its deliberately dragging itself. If the UK leaves, it might well hasten the end of the EU. But either way, the UK needs to look elsewhere for countries to sell goods and services to or we will go the same way as the EU.
Saying all that, I still think the UK will be in the EU 3 years from now.
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Post by Ribaric on Jun 10, 2016 19:06:44 GMT 1
I was kinda hoping for comments about HR citizenship, if the UK leaves, as a way of retaining EU citizenship. Will anyone do it ... apart from me?
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Post by fidobsa on Jun 11, 2016 12:18:36 GMT 1
I can't see me ever passing a Croatia citizenship test so no, I will only ever be British.
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Post by prkbrk on Jun 12, 2016 12:07:55 GMT 1
I was kinda hoping for comments about HR citizenship, if the UK leaves, as a way of retaining EU citizenship. Will anyone do it ... apart from me? Probably...like you Rib I am in the Remain camp so would take out HR citizenship. Already a permanent resident so not an issue for me if Brexit happens
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Post by crojoe on Jun 12, 2016 14:54:55 GMT 1
If we think back to the days prior to Croatia joining then me things it may be a bit like that for us Brits in Croatia. Will need visa's to stay (time to line up like cattle at MUP again... at least now they give out numbers). If you own property, have a Croatian partner or maybe a business then things might be ok, but no overstaying 3 months if the UK decides to leave.
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Post by swordfish on Jun 12, 2016 20:09:27 GMT 1
Proof of purchase, items outside the EU taxed again at the borders we all know Croatia if something can be taxed it will be ( the string gets longer!)
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Post by prkbrk on Jun 13, 2016 11:52:37 GMT 1
I see the pound slumping again today.....looks like it will lose between 10 & 20% of its value against Euro according to some analysts if Brexit happens....not happy with that at all..
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Post by Carol on Jun 13, 2016 16:29:03 GMT 1
Why do all the news reporters seem to think that the pound only moves on brexit news? How do they account for the fact that it has moved every second of every day since Victoria was a young girl and no one had ever heard of the EU.
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