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Post by Slatkica on Mar 2, 2006 13:39:25 GMT 1
No no, I can really see where sladka is coming from. Can't you just picture a 'dads army' like militant gang of 60 year old retired British and Americans rounding up all the Croatians and expelling them from the land ? It sounds oh so realistic to me. Foriegners will never out number Croatians in Croatia. They won't even come close. Only a child could think like that. I'm going to make a little Croat/aussie baby, he's going to be as Croatian as any other Croatian I know. My wife is Croatian, but her mother was born in Bulgaria and her father in Bosnia, but now they are all Croatian and proud to be. Even I feel part Croatian now. hmmmmmmmmmm, I never ment they would, can't you see it was more sarcasim than reality. Plus it depends on what everyone is talking about, you are actually talking about feeling croatian and nobody doubts that certainly not me, compared to actually being by blood croatian, which was what we where discussing. I think you are taking things to heart a little bit to much, this whole thread seems to be more of a joke than serious talk.
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Post by daria14 on Mar 2, 2006 21:52:00 GMT 1
Lojalnost these were my exact words: "...one property is filled with my cousins and aunt during the year and over the summer with tourists." These tourists are not "foreginers" they are simply the peopl from zagreb and in land gettin on to the coast.
You said: "You are making a profit off tourists..." Tecnocially speaking, no im not. Im generating a cycle of money that ends up staying in Croatia anyways.
You said: "Most people in Croatia don't have two kuna's to rub together." Well, is that my prooblem they spend more time in cafes then they do working??
Irac said: " You're not one to talk, you're Canadian?" First off, I am Canadian but more importantly I AM Croatian.
Irac said: "The percentage of "foreign-owned" land is ridiculous and an anomaly..." Well im on it right now as a matter of fact lookin for this "proof" you need to back up my claims.
Bobs said: "This whole thread is a waste of space. As far I'm concerned anyone is welcome to move to Croatia, buy a property, start a business. They can only add to our country, not take away from it. Multiculturalism is the way to go. " Your comment was a waste of space to this thread. I never said no one is welcome to come in to Croatia, so get your facts staright, and show me some "proof" as Irac says. You said: "They can only add to our country, not take away from it." YES they can take away from it. They can take away its culture, seas, tradition ect...
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 2, 2006 22:21:16 GMT 1
These tourists are not "foreginers" they are simply the peopl from zagreb and in land gettin on to the coast. You said: "You are making a profit off tourists..." Tecnocially speaking, no im not. Im generating a cycle of money that ends up staying in Croatia anyways. You said: "Most people in Croatia don't have two kuna's to rub together." Well, is that my prooblem they spend more time in cafes then they do working?? ARRRRRRRRRGH the REAL CROATS sitting in the cafe's of Zagreb, now I understand.
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Post by Ribaric on Mar 2, 2006 22:47:11 GMT 1
I don't want to enter this argument per se, but I am intruiged (genuinely) about your statement. You are born and bred in Canada whilst your family name comes from your dad or his family who came from Croatia - is that right?
I also have a foreign surname, it's German, not that I know too much about it. Would you tell me how/why you feel the way you do about your nationality? Despite my surname, this "dual" feel is alien to me and I'd like to understand what drives you to feel the way you do. I have no point to make, I just want to learn.
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Post by daria14 on Mar 2, 2006 23:06:26 GMT 1
my mother and father are both croatian. My grandparents and all my relatives are croatian. My older sister was born in Croatia...etc. Yes i was born in Canada, but i am Croatian. Croatian is in my blood. Its my nationality...
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Post by Ribaric on Mar 3, 2006 0:19:49 GMT 1
OK thanks. How would you describe your feelings about Canada? E.G. Do you feel like you are living abroad? I guess you are bi-lingual to some extent at least, does that mark you out as a little different from work/school friends? I hope you don't mind me asking?
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Post by daria14 on Mar 3, 2006 1:23:28 GMT 1
No, I dont mind you asking . Canada is my "hometown" i guess you could say, I guess i loe it because without it i wouldnt be here . No, I dont feel like im living abroad, as i said, this is where my life is. Bilingual in the sense of English-Croatian? or English-French? And no it doesnt mark me out as different because everyone in Canada is mostly of a different background. Where i live is 95% italians. Its not like i have an accent or anything, but my father has a bit of one since he was born in Croatia.
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Post by Slatkica on Mar 3, 2006 8:22:34 GMT 1
Bobs said: "This whole thread is a waste of space. As far I'm concerned anyone is welcome to move to Croatia, buy a property, start a business. They can only add to our country, not take away from it. Multiculturalism is the way to go. " Your comment was a waste of space to this thread. I never said no one is welcome to come in to Croatia, so get your facts staright, and show me some "proof" as Irac says. You said: "They can only add to our country, not take away from it." YES they can take away from it. They can take away its culture, seas, tradition ect...
I really don't understand why people would think Daria would say "no one is welcome to croatia" when she herself was born and is living in another country, so how could she object to such things, I think she just wants Croatia to stay rich in its culture, and surely that is not such a bad thing.
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Post by gmh on Mar 3, 2006 11:35:53 GMT 1
If the concern is 'loosing it's culture' then it's not the foriegners you have to worry about. A lot of them move here because they are sick of the culture in their own country and want to move somewhere which so far is far less 'westernised' than where they are from. It's actually the young 'wannabe' Croatians you need to worry about because through music and television and the internet they are sucking up 'americanisms' at a disturbing rate. It's actually the Croatian media that is to blame for any loss of culture here.
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 3, 2006 14:37:54 GMT 1
Sladka, Bobs is right, so ner ner, ner ner ner ner! Don't change the argument to one about culture. That's not want she said.
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Post by mark2 on Mar 4, 2006 15:43:12 GMT 1
I finally have the definitive answer to this thread, after a week from Hell the response is ...Croatia is Selling but Croatians want 95% discount!
We have had five seperate groups of Croatian "potential buyers" come to see us this week, after viewing properties on computer, we showed them 9 houses between 75 & 95,000 Euros. at the end of a very long day they eventually confessed that their maximum budget was 60,000 which they yet had to arrange. Even though we were told earlier, the sky is the limit, if we like the house.
Today we had a return visit from an assistant Bank manager & gang, but these "potential buyers" were confused because a small house on the beach was only slightly less money than a larger one a kilometre from the beach, "the price per square metre doesn't equate" To try and explain that a square metre of top-quality granite floor compared with a concrete m2 is not the same, just didn't cut it. NO NO NO it's a square metre and that is that, gardens and terraces don't count, they say. ....asking price 87,000 offer - 71,000 plus the owner must pay for all the legal work. Even the neighbours (3 generations of them) couldn't explain reality to them! and the bank manager said that he had read an article in some newspaper that Croatian property prices had peaked and were about to slump!!!!He also could not believe that anyone from the UK would buy a house here only to spend a two week holiday! AAAAAGGGGGHHHHH
THIS is the simple reason foreigners are buying on the coast...simply because they appreciate the Croatian coastline for what it is, they value it and are prepared to pay for that....end of rant!
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Post by daria14 on Mar 10, 2006 17:52:07 GMT 1
ty mark for that fascinating disscussion, NOT...we all know why foreigners are buying on the coast. Its plain to see! We're talking about the fact that foreigners are buying out the coast at a pretty quick rate!
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 10, 2006 20:28:04 GMT 1
ty mark for that fascinating disscussion, NOT...we all know why foreigners are buying on the coast. Its plain to see! We're talking about the fact that foreigners are buying out the coast at a pretty quick rate! where else would you expect them to buy? How about Belgrade! What are you on about?
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Post by daria14 on Mar 11, 2006 0:00:22 GMT 1
obviously i know why they are buying in croatia...its beautiful , but im talking about the amount of property going so quickly!
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 11, 2006 0:15:13 GMT 1
erm?.....and what is your point darling?
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