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Post by lojalnost on Mar 1, 2006 3:52:59 GMT 1
Geographically, size wise, Croatia can fit into Canada 176.5 times!
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Post by Slatkica on Mar 1, 2006 19:21:32 GMT 1
Surely as long as there is a Croatia, there will be Croatians (and stop sticking your tounge out at me!) well not really
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Post by daria14 on Mar 1, 2006 22:26:09 GMT 1
sladka youre my best friend your the only one that agrees with me here!! and actually sees where im coming from... p.s why the heck was this nessacery??: "Geographically, size wise, Croatia can fit into Canada 176.5 times!"
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 2, 2006 1:05:06 GMT 1
Brilliantly incisive sladka, outstanding.
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Post by daria14 on Mar 2, 2006 2:16:21 GMT 1
your sarcasm iritates me
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Post by daria14 on Mar 2, 2006 2:17:46 GMT 1
and plus she is correct...just because their is a Croatia doesnt mean their will always be croatians, there is only approx. 5 mill...we wont last forever at this rate of selling our land away.
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 2, 2006 2:26:00 GMT 1
there are more croatians around the world than in it, and it hasn't disappeared yet. Anyway societies change, cultures change, people adapt, and those that invest there invest there because they like it not because they want Croatia to disappear. Immigration is not always negative and it will give Croatia the boost it needs. Look at Bosnia, there you've got the people struggling to find jobs. Hanging around on street corners. Why? Because nothing has changed and companies don't want to invest. Countries don't "sell out", Croatia is here to stay. Croatia is much more than those who don't want to sell anything to Croatia, its an idea, an ideal, look at the US its not just about "real americans". Anyone could become an American, they started from nothing. Here's a point for you, may be you should put more into being a Canadian, then may be you will get more out of living there. May be you will find more respect for you compatriots there in Canada. You don't live in Croatia, you live in Canada, and most of the people in Croatia don't have the resources that you do, and you want to deny them of the chance. Most people in Croatia don't have two kuna's to rub together. Stop the romantic pseudo fascist sentiments about foreigners, as you are one yourself. AND FINALLY you rent one of your houses out to tourists, what are they if they are not foreigners. You are making a profit off tourists who may like it so much, as they do, and decide to buy a piece of land or a nice little run down stone cottage that needs doing up.
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Post by lojalnost on Mar 2, 2006 2:29:31 GMT 1
your sarcasm iritates me excellent, sladka's very good on cakes
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Post by Slatkica on Mar 2, 2006 8:09:34 GMT 1
Anyone could become an American, they started from nothing. well I guess every land started from nothing to begin with but truely speaking Croatia wasn't really un beknown to the rest of the world like a american was, so as that hundreds of thousands of migrants from europe could move there. And if any one can become a Croatian now then it basically looses the whole point of there being Croatian's atall becuase they wouldn't be any real type of conjoined ethnic group, infact just making them a bunch of random people,leading to other random people upon other random people for generation and generation, until maybe they decide to give themselves a name like; American no2 or poopywoopy. Therefore proving my point that you could end up with a croatia with no croatian;s in it.
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Post by Slatkica on Mar 2, 2006 8:15:26 GMT 1
your sarcasm iritates me excellent, sladka's very good on cakes this is you're best point
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Post by Slatkica on Mar 2, 2006 8:16:19 GMT 1
sladka youre my best friend your the only one that agrees with me here!! and actually sees where im coming from... p.s why the heck was this nessacery??: "Geographically, size wise, Croatia can fit into Canada 176.5 times!" ;D
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Post by irac on Mar 2, 2006 9:34:15 GMT 1
Daria, from 3 steps forward to 10 back, what is your problem? There'll be no Croatians left if they sell their land? You're not one to talk, you're Canadian? Or do you refuse to recognise institutions and laws of the land? Why not just leave Canada and return to our land here if you're so concerned with making the country more Croatian? Who are Croatians? Do you even understand this? You mean to say the family from Zenica who bought a plot of land next to my house and built their own place, or not Croatian? Or are they Croats? Show me a pure blood "Croat" and you will win a million! You're back to talking nonsense.
The percentage of "foreign-owned" land is ridiculous and an anomaly, over half of all properties registered to be held by non-nationals, are in fact owned by Croatian companies registered offshore, or in Bosnia, Montenegro et al. You have no facts, statistics or on the ground proof to back up such a spurious thesis, and after making such progress, saying that all those who arrive in the country and make their lives here are Croatians (which is the actual fact of the matter), you're no regressing to the level of one of the infamous Manson family who landed here!
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Post by Ribaric on Mar 2, 2006 11:28:47 GMT 1
There's genetics research team in the UK led by one of the world's leading geneticists, one Dr. Steven Jones. They have published that the female-derived genes (those that can only be passed on by females) have only seven variants in every single Caucasian. They deduce from this that the entire Caucasian population of the world has one of the same seven women as an ancestor. Thus, it seems we are all related, several times over down through history. It's only borders, beliefs, language and circumstances that separate us from each other. In short, Croatian, Swede, German...whatever.... these are only titles, we're all cousins so what's the point of nationalist sentiments? We should each get about 4 billion birthday presents from our family.
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Post by gmh on Mar 2, 2006 11:54:26 GMT 1
No no, I can really see where sladka is coming from. Can't you just picture a 'dads army' like militant gang of 60 year old retired British and Americans rounding up all the Croatians and expelling them from the land ? It sounds oh so realistic to me.
Foriegners will never out number Croatians in Croatia. They won't even come close. Only a child could think like that. I'm going to make a little Croat/aussie baby, he's going to be as Croatian as any other Croatian I know. My wife is Croatian, but her mother was born in Bulgaria and her father in Bosnia, but now they are all Croatian and proud to be. Even I feel part Croatian now.
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Post by bobsyouruncle on Mar 2, 2006 12:51:10 GMT 1
This whole thread is a waste of space. As far I'm concerned anyone is welcome to move to Croatia, buy a property, start a business. They can only add to our country, not take away from it. Multiculturalism is the way to go.
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