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Post by capio on Apr 28, 2008 12:04:08 GMT 1
There's an area behind Medvednica when you come down that hill the back way that I considered buying in, it's a village, somewhere like that in England so close to a city would be prime real estate people would fight for it. It's on the road towards Maribor. Croats obviously prefer city life.
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Post by justapixel on Apr 28, 2008 12:18:14 GMT 1
10-15 mins. 5 miles or so... but I do travel a lot and only go to the office when I feel like it, I work from home a lot. Most people here commute 30mins or more to work, and if they worked at a location 5 miles away, their commuting would last even longer. Imagine if most of jobs were within inner Inner London, there were no Tube, railroad networks were virtually non-existent, roads were poor and cabs were made illegal... in that case, would the Brits still be that willing to abide the tradition and live in their nice and cozy little country houses with gardens and everything? .
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Post by capio on Apr 28, 2008 12:38:09 GMT 1
10-15 mins. 5 miles or so... but I do travel a lot and only go to the office when I feel like it, I work from home a lot. Most people here commute 30mins or more to work, and if they worked at a location 5 miles away, their commuting would last even longer. Imagine if most of jobs were within inner Inner London, there were no Tube, railroad networks were virtually non-existent, roads were poor and cabs were made illegal... in that case, would the Brits still be that willing to abide the tradition and live in their nice and cozy little country houses with gardens and everything? . I don't need to imagine, I lived in Zagreb it's a nightmare. I lived in Petrova for a while and walked to work in 5 mins which was great. Unfortunately my boss was arrested lol so I had to move on... I then moved to a new development, because I needed to be able to get the the airport and back twice a week, it was taking me an hour and I simply didn't have the time. The problem was after that it took me 45 mins to get into the city. Zagreb simply does not have enough roads... a ring road is absolutely paramount, it was unbelievable that I had to drive right through the city to go to the old town. It also needs a underground desperately hopefully a move towards the Eu will help fund one. There are times when I could get to Slovenia quicker than to the centre of Zagreb and I lived in Zagreb.
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Post by justapixel on Apr 28, 2008 12:46:47 GMT 1
There are quite a few well thought of plans of Zagreb ring road, Zagreb metro, Zagreb light rail system, new bridges, new major roads... The problem is all those plans crash into reality when it comes to funding. And the center is a nightmare with it's narrow and sparse roads. Obviously Zagreb planners never meant it to be a large city, not even a provincial capital - and suddenly it is.
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Post by irac on Apr 28, 2008 17:49:24 GMT 1
justapixel is right about Zagreb's newly acquired role as a capital, but the city an central government are planning a number of sensible moves copied from other countries. Moving the treasury out of the city (to a very interesting spot), putting in a new airport (which doesn't seem to make sense except they're looking to sell on the old one) and to put in a planned town on the way to Jastrebarsko. I think the latter is a nice place to live, plus it is clean, near to the city, but imagine the traffic in the mornings if it becomes a suburb. Where are the out of town business developments?
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Post by justapixel on Apr 28, 2008 20:10:44 GMT 1
Where are the out of town business developments? All of the remaining factories within inner city limits are moving to the outskirts, most of them in the eastern and southeastern parts of the city. One of the reason for that is that they've been occupying prime locations and now are selling their plots for very high prices. A white collar business district is forming on the SE part of the city, but that's still very close to the center (and to the place I presently live ). Similar districts have formed on the far western parts where most of the newly built residential areas are. .
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Post by Valleycat on May 1, 2008 21:05:37 GMT 1
i think this post is a tad over the top the whole of europe is up for price correction your house is only worth what someone wil pay for it and this has always been true times are tough and its time for the tough to get going I tend to agree. . some what. . . but the reality is you house is only worth what the bank will loan you to pay for it!!! That is something that I aways wondered about. They don't seem to have a legitimate system of appraisal here. .. nor is there a legitimate method of reporting sales. . like the MLS (multiple listing service) in US. So how does someone really price their property? To me, these very high . . . out of their minds prices set by the seller are out of this world. How do the agents here deal with it? I am speaking of rural Croatia. .. which except for the large cities. .. seem to be most of Croatia. . .I really don't think that these sellers are motivated at all. . . in most cases they have no reason to sell. . . I might be wrong. . . I can't see most of these people selling and actually moving. And where would they go anyway? The home has been in their family for generations. Then there is the issue of clear title. . . we are talking generations to clear this up. . . and I am not sure the system is willing to do this. . . they make more money keeping it the way it is. . . mixed up. I have heard horror stories about working with a surveyor.. . where the neighbors can't even agree upon property lines. . . and the witness won't tell the truth. I have to be pessimistic. . . but I fear that this is going to be a mess for a long time. . . longer than any of us here reading these posts.
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Post by rijekafan on May 5, 2008 10:54:31 GMT 1
depondent Did you mean despondent?[/quote] Yep Im a crap speller:)
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Post by Nick on May 5, 2008 11:22:24 GMT 1
Real estate markets in most of the world are in trouble at the moment and things will be getting alot worse over the next few years.
With regards to travel in Zagreb, I would not be surprised to see a congestion charge being implemented pretty soon.
As for an underground system, well that's just madness. Zagreb is just too small.
On a final note about the airport, why do they need a new one? There are very few flights in and out of Zagreb each day and I quite like being able to park 2 mins away for a couple of Kuna a day.
The toll at the end of the unfinished motorway is my biggest complaint, 15km tailback yesterday, must learn the back roads from Karlovac.
Anyway I love Croatia, nothing could get me to move back to UK.
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Post by justapixel on May 5, 2008 11:34:32 GMT 1
As for an underground system, well that's just madness. Zagreb is just too small. You can't state that without a deeper analysis. There are many ways of achieving a rapid transit system, either by expanding and modernizing railroad network, building overground monorail systems, building underground or a cheaper light rail version. They all require cost-benefit analysis and all have their drawbacks. What matters is that Zagreb really desperately needs a more efficient public transportation and utterly lacks street real estate (with streets being too narrow). And yes, there are many cities smaller than Zagreb having an underground system. .
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Post by Carol on May 5, 2008 16:12:57 GMT 1
has this anything to do with "now that we are a capital city, we want the trappings of one!"?
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Post by justapixel on May 5, 2008 17:54:03 GMT 1
has this anything to do with "now that we are a capital city, we want the trappings of one!"? That phrase is popular among the opponents of the idea, but that's about it. Zagreb really desperately needs better public transportation and metro is as practical solution as any other. .
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Post by zoran on Jul 8, 2008 14:43:51 GMT 1
It is true that properties are expensive but only at the (popular) destinations. I never take any property on sale if I think the price is to high but everybody else did. There are plenty good offers but it is not easy to find them. If you dont care about the place name or that property must be near the sea I think you can find a good deal.
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Post by Carol on Jul 8, 2008 14:52:25 GMT 1
REALLY?! So you never were asked to sell a property where you knew there was no hope but the seller would turn against you and cause you trouble unless you at least pretended to go along with it? Or you've never taken anything on where the seller is being greedy but at least it helps demonstrate what a bargain the place next door is?
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Post by polako on Jul 8, 2008 15:01:26 GMT 1
Carol- my Cro estate agent in Istria prices the properties so realistically that they sell. Not underpriced, but realistic prices. Whereas if you want the higher inflated valuation and the property to stay on the books for years, do not go to her........
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