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Post by darcy on Aug 4, 2008 18:22:13 GMT 1
Nick,
Dirty money in one country is perfectly legal in another. You are vastly exaggerating trivial and very well known facts. The bottom line is, Croatia does not cooperate fully with other law enforcement agencies in other countries (willingly or unwillingly). Many countries are selling the weapons using proxies, even kids know that. It is only the matter of promptly disclosing the information when and if it becomes available makes the country useful participant in the overall struggle for more secure and certainly a - better world.
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Post by Nick on Aug 4, 2008 18:57:57 GMT 1
darcy "You are vastly exaggerating trivial and very well known facts." Are you saying that "25% of hotel investment in Croatia is from Israeli weapons money that comes via Hungary" is a very well known fact? Please show me a source for this information.
darcy "Many countries are selling the weapons using proxies, even kids know that." Even kids, which kids might these be? All kids? Croatian kids? or maybe your kids? Bit lost as to why someone would say such a thing.
Back to the original subject of this thread, regarding the Real Estate Crisis in Croatia, it seems pretty obvious that when there is a global financial crisis and the Real Estate markets in the US, UK and most of Europe are in serious trouble, that maybe holiday homes in Croatia might also be affected. Just a thought.
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Post by darcy on Aug 4, 2008 23:20:00 GMT 1
Nick,
Even Croatian kids know that, learning from Croatian history, so you might be right, they are little bit older kids.
Back to the topic, would you like to comment on my proposal? Crisis is primarily an opportunity.
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Post by Carol on Aug 5, 2008 21:21:32 GMT 1
Darcy - how would you describe British estate agencies? I'm curious because while I personally think there is on average more ethics than in Croatia, their reputations in England are very far from ethical. Its just like Croatia - you find good ones and bad ones.
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Post by darcy on Aug 8, 2008 15:46:36 GMT 1
I was not thinking about only real estate agencies only. Of course, there are good and bad, however you need to have some kind of standard in providing services, you need to have a common understanding of the purchasing process, understanding what the obligations etc. There is very little to do but will make a huge difference. For example, do you check the title before listing your property (nobody expects from you to "guarantee" for the title, just do not agree to list the property unless you have OK from everybody listed on the title). Do you consult the title or ask the owner when advertising the size of the block? Do you ask the owner for the ‘uporabna’ and the building permit, or you are afraid to loose the client? When someone complains, there should be a body you can complain to, a process for a quick resolution and overall service improvements. In Croatia, they will pass the law, issue the licenses and ask you to pay an annual fee. Nothing else will change.
I mentioned England only as an example, there could be other jurisdictions where things are better. What I know is a buying process that is reasonably well regulated, but not an overkill (like in Europe). This is not because of the real estate agents, but about joint effort of the legal practitioners and a help from the government regulator. However, we all know you are better protected when buying a toy for a kid, then when you are buying a house, but at least you do not have to see a picture of a completely different house in the ad, size of the land advertised as 800 m2 when there are only 400, 5 bedrooms are actually 2 bedrooms + storage, hallway and a laundry, an ‘uporabna’ they can’t show but they are still making up ridiculous stories to explain that ... And all that for the prices very comparable to the properties anywhere in Europe.
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