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Post by Viva UK on Aug 12, 2004 0:39:21 GMT 1
I am from the Uk and am interested in visiting the balkans (slovenia, Hungary, Serbia, Croatia), i wanted some background information on the wars in former Yugoslavia and have found this site to be quite intersesting. www.srpska-mreza.com/library/library.html
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Post by Tom2 on Aug 12, 2004 10:55:06 GMT 1
You are a Serbian propagandist, and not a genuine traveller.
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Post by Luka on Aug 12, 2004 14:23:40 GMT 1
Wanted to reply with some points raised on the Serbia Network website, but I would be just wasting my time to argue with the idiots who produced the website.
I am quite proud that my lot (the Croats) do not have anything similar(lies, half-truths, cr*p etc) about Croatia.
Three cheers to that!
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Post by Dinko on Aug 12, 2004 14:27:32 GMT 1
Please note that CRO Serbs were forced to leave "Krajina", as ordered by their own leaders (as "President" Babic of "Krajina", confirned at the Hague tribunal recently).
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Post by Dragan on Aug 12, 2004 15:40:21 GMT 1
Regarding some of the inforamation, it probobly is biased in some parts, however no one can say that many serbs where not forced to leave their homes (or killed) in Krajina.
The information on the Usatasa seems to be fairly accurate with facts to back it up.
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Post by Mirko1 on Aug 12, 2004 17:54:06 GMT 1
Forced by whom: according to "President" Babic, by their own leaders?
Re: Ustashe - there were a bunch of criminals, and many Croats joined the resistance movement.
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Post by Scotts Wales on Aug 12, 2004 18:33:53 GMT 1
I am not Serb nor Croat but I find it so hard that neither side can accept either bit of truth which is incriminating towads them. If there was a croat website all serbs would says its lies! There has to be some truth to each story.
I have studied alot about the WW2 and a bit about Former Yugoslavia , I will be the first to say that both sides did some horrible things durning the war and from what I know about the Yugoslav war, one thing is for sure "the serbs were ethnically cleansed from Croatia"
The same way the evil Ustasa killed, tortured and mutilated serbs in 1942, the same thing was once again done in Krajina. I have never heard anything about this Krajina president tell serbs to leave Krajina, and if he did do that I DONT BLAME HIM! WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU KNEW THAT A HUGE ARMY WAS COMING TO KILL YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO PROTECT YOURSELVES? OF COURSE YOU WOULD TELL YOUR PEOPLE TO LEAVE, however most did not listen and were killed or "ethnicaly cleansed".
Regarding the Ustasa - I hope all who fell victim to those mosters are in heaven with god, and that the Ustasa who killed them are rotting in hell.
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Post by Why on Aug 12, 2004 19:25:04 GMT 1
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Post by Zvonimir on Aug 17, 2004 13:57:05 GMT 1
I have never heard anything about this Krajina president tell serbs to leave Krajina, and if he did do that I DONT BLAME HIM! WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU KNEW THAT A HUGE ARMY WAS COMING TO KILL YOUR PEOPLE AND YOU DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO PROTECT YOURSELVES? OF COURSE YOU WOULD TELL YOUR PEOPLE TO LEAVE, however most did not listen and were killed or "ethnicaly cleansed". First of all, there is no such place as "Krajina". Get that through your thick skull... . So, for 4 years Croatia had a third of it's country occupied by the serbs. In the Knin area Croats were expelled, all their property stolen, the lucky ones at least escaped alive...imagine, Croatians expelled from their homes in Croatia...don't give me this bull$hit that the serbs there are innocent...the guilty ones fled for the motherland when the Croatian army came to liberate it's territory...they even shelled Zagreb from there killing 6 I believe for which now the serb leader from there is in the Hague...so don't give me this they had no arms....they were backed fully by serbia proper. Everyone in the world knows this but you. Read a book, educate yourself before you come to a Croatian board spewing such lies... The Serbs had weapons, us Croatians nothing due to embargos...for 4 years we are forced to live like this in our own country...then when we finally get the ability to defend ourselves and reclaim every inch of our land, you now say some from Knin area were cleansed? Give your head a shake ...and quit the b.s. I suggest this goes to Knin now to see the giant beautiful Croatian flag flying there. Knin, the city of Croatian kings. Oluja-Hvala Bogu. P.s I was in Croatia a few weeks back and saw in Karlovac just what these "unarmed" serbs did...apartments are riddled with bullet holes and shrapnel damage...my cousin said he couldn't go to school for a year there because the serbs just were shelling it...there is a hotel there in Karlovac that is destroyed...and remains like that to this day because the damage is too much to attempt to repair...I suppose this fool thinks we did it to ourselves... In Dubrovnik, you see at the entrance points maps showing where the serbs damaged/destroyed houses, etc...but this scott/wales loser doesn't care to know or pretends not to know... This scots/wales guy should worry about his own sad history. Poor Irish slaughtered by the "brave" Brits...and where are the weapons of mass destuction your leader Blair said were in Iraq??!?!?!? Phucking hypocrite... And don't forget what the Brits did to us at Bleiburg....we will never forget. =U=
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Post by Jiras on Aug 17, 2004 16:57:28 GMT 1
Wow, you are so smart.... Did the Croatian media tell you all these lies? Well of course, they couldnt handle the truth. Since you dont know much about Karlovac I will explain to you... Karlovac used to be half serb/croat, When croatia resurected its Ustasa-Nazi past in 1991 they began expelling and slaughtering serbs from Karlovac, the serbs began to take arms and battles between the croats and serbs took place. (You must have been talking about that big group of apartments near hotel korana, when you mentioned bullet holes) The serbs occupied that side of the town (the apatments included) while most croats where accros the river korana, the croats and serbs began shooting and battling each other, while hotel korana and those apartments where in between the serbs and croatsand were caught in the cross-fire) Also once the croats occupied the serb side of the town they broke into hotel korana and looted it of everything! (beds, lamps, money, anything they could find) Obviusly you are not a very smart and intellectual person, since it is evident from your using of the ustasa sign (=U=) at the bottom of your post. No one that is trully mentally stable can support the killings, torturing, and mutlilating those monsters did. It may be funny for you but it wasnt for him www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/knifed.html
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Post by Zvonimir on Aug 17, 2004 18:42:28 GMT 1
Wow, you are so smart.... Did the Croatian media tell you all these lies? Well of course, they couldnt handle the truth. Since you dont know much about Karlovac I will explain to you... Karlovac used to be half serb/croat, When croatia resurected its Ustasa-Nazi past in 1991 they began expelling and slaughtering serbs from Karlovac, the serbs began to take arms and battles between the croats and serbs took place. (You must have been talking about that big group of apartments near hotel korana, when you mentioned bullet holes) The serbs occupied that side of the town (the apatments included) while most croats where accros the river korana, the croats and serbs began shooting and battling each other, while hotel korana and those apartments where in between the serbs and croatsand were caught in the cross-fire) Also once the croats occupied the serb side of the town they broke into hotel korana and looted it of everything! (beds, lamps, money, anything they could find) Obviusly you are not a very smart and intellectual person, since it is evident from your using of the ustasa sign (=U=) at the bottom of your post. No one that is trully mentally stable can support the killings, torturing, and mutlilating those monsters did. It may be funny for you but it wasnt for him www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/knifed.html
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Post by Jiras on Aug 17, 2004 19:23:25 GMT 1
Yes......
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Post by TomB on Aug 17, 2004 20:58:48 GMT 1
Jira you are not telling the truth. Karlovac is in Croatia and is a CRO city. The Serbs had no right to rebel against the Croatian authorities. Nobody was slaughtering Serbs, as you claim.
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Post by jiras on Aug 17, 2004 21:10:50 GMT 1
Jira you are not telling the truth. Karlovac is in Croatia and is a CRO city. The Serbs had no right to rebel against the Croatian authorities. Nobody was slaughtering Serbs, as you claim.
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Post by Jiras on Aug 17, 2004 21:11:30 GMT 1
Tell that to the dead....and those who were forced to leave.... I WAS THERE!
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