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Post by UCP on Sept 1, 2004 0:37:18 GMT 1
Hey thanks!
But no,, this really isnt a debate its more of a fight between smart people Vs. Stupid people.
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Post by svugrekzg on Sept 1, 2004 1:59:05 GMT 1
exactly, i am discussing and you are fighting, against who ? that only you know.
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Post by UCP on Sept 1, 2004 2:14:09 GMT 1
exactly, i am discussing and you are fighting, against who ? that only you know. Svugi, stay off the drugs
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Post by svugrekzg on Sept 1, 2004 3:47:04 GMT 1
the only drug i use is the air that makes my cells work, what about you ?
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Post by UCP on Sept 1, 2004 16:31:02 GMT 1
Ummm..I dont think air classesifies as a "Drug"..... perhaps....but I dont think so....
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Post by pacificstar on Nov 8, 2004 22:31:10 GMT 1
This is what I know.............I was born in America but my grandparents came from Austria Hungry before WW1 to the States. Whiel I was growing up I heard the stories of my family who served under Franz Joseph and who when the new regeime came in power were murdered in their own home excution style. The whole time I was growing up from the early 50's until the late 60's we always sent a box of food, letters and pictures and money to our loved ones in Croatia. I was blessed to visit them this last summer and view the pictures and letters that we sent. I was impressed by the beautiful scerney and the kindness of my family and I can't wait to return. I've also visited Ireland and have seen the great possiblites for the future when Croatia joins the EU. I would love to hear everyone's comments.
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Post by Dalmatinac on Nov 9, 2004 9:16:46 GMT 1
For those of you who do not know UCP, he has quite openly said many times that he is a hard nationalist srb.
There is not much point arguing with him as he will always in his mind think he is right. For you real Croats like svugrekzg, just ignore him. he will just waste your time.
Reading the very first few posts, I was put in jail during the old Yug for saying I was a Croat and was accused of all sorts of things. So UCP you are correct we could state what we where but we would have to face the consequences as well
The bottom line is that Croatia Won the war and any battles and the srbs, the very few that are left as refugees in Sweden Bosnia UK and other places are just peed off they have nothing. Especially since now montenegro wants to seperate as well
Zivili Hrvati
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Post by Dalmatinac on Nov 9, 2004 9:19:29 GMT 1
One more thing, you will see how the srbs in this forum start getting personal and start throwing derogatory comments around when they start loosing the debate.
I bet if they were face to face to you they would start a fight as well, this is what causes war, there inability to admit failure and control their temper. If I were a srb I would let others educate me not knock them, but then I'm not a srb I'm a gentleman.
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Post by Dalmatinski Srbin on Nov 9, 2004 16:55:31 GMT 1
Dalmatinac, I am a serb and a gentleman. You just wrote that we get personal when we start losing blah blah blah etc etc etc
Are you not a hypocrite then?
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Post by Onest Croat on Nov 10, 2004 4:59:43 GMT 1
I've heard about etnic cleansing in Croatia. Dalmatinac, you are the first Croat that openly admits to it. Well done. It's time for the truth.
[glow=red,2,300] ‘I am an ‘onest man, since I dare speak th’ truth aloud! Deny it, ye can not afore God, for I saw it with mine own good eye! An’ fie on ye!’ [/glow]
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Post by Dim on Nov 10, 2004 10:02:42 GMT 1
well I was born in Cro lived most of my life there was participating in war as well.
During Yugoslavia people were given more freedom then in other countries behind iron curain but much less then in the west. It was easy to become Croat nationalist even by singing some benign songs such as Vilo Velebita or Ustani Bane. You could said you are a croat but that was it. Chek board coat of arms was banned toattaly and in 50is and 60ies if they found any of it in your home it would be Goli Otok for few years.If your parent was fighting on the wrong side during 2nd WW there was not a chance to get a job since control was strong and persons like that were unwanted especially in state jobs and most of them were like that.I had both Ustase and Partisans in my family.
I lived in a mixed town where Serbs made 20 percent and during the Yugoslavia they were privilaged definitevely. they made 80% of that town police force and also large precentage of public administration and also directors of big state companies were mainly serbs.
Yugoslavia gave people better social security and some basic needs were always covered such as health,free education cheap food etc but it deprived them from freedom of speech and controled many other aspects of life and definitevely tried to remove any national identity.
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Post by RIGHTS on Nov 11, 2004 5:59:20 GMT 1
Amen
As for UCP only after i started this thread did i realise he was a cedo, before then i thought he was a croat and i could not believe the views an opinions he had. Once realising he was a cedomir it all made sens to me.
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Post by no nation man on Nov 17, 2004 3:03:03 GMT 1
I see that most of the people here still remain uninformed of the real reasons of the war.Keep sleeping...as you were asleep when they convinced you to kill your croat/serb/slovene/afgani/whatever neighbour of yours...sleep, buy weapons from them, sing your anthem and...die for them......afterwards, apply for a job in their re-construction companies that came to rebuild bombed srbja,poor Croatia,etc.... A few of you have open minds...keep it up my friends...war solutions is for inferior minds...
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Post by no nation man on Nov 17, 2004 3:10:08 GMT 1
O, as for the guy that wrote (many posts ago) why the language is called serbocroatian and not only croatian, the answer is similar to the stupidity of his question: cause it is spoken by serbs and croatians simultaneously...like it or not nationalist friends.. you are relatives...
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Post by Dan on Dec 14, 2004 4:21:46 GMT 1
You people are so silly. It's pretty obvious we got either
A) Serbs "dressed up" as croats on this forum just to aggitate
B) Communists. Yes there are some croat communists out there. Don't ask me how you could possibly call yourself a croat AND be a communist. That's like being a neo-nazi and have jewish parents.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course BUT to say that croats had more independence during the Yugoslav era is really ignorant, on the borderline of stupid.
Talk about dishonoring all the croat soldiers who gave their lifes for freedom in the battle against communism and the serbs.
I wouldn't call the "real croats".
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