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Post by pacificstar on Feb 9, 2005 2:04:23 GMT 1
Irac,
Right on about Dundalk. So do you have any relatives in Cork? Lower Glanmire?
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Post by Shannon on Feb 9, 2005 10:28:37 GMT 1
What was the reaction in the press to this dart player, by the way? Did he have to make any public statement, or are the people in Ireland (was it?) not so uptight?
Please don't dredge up long excerpts from old posts, to continue a battle of insults. For anyone who wants to peruse, the threads are right there. If you feel you must fight with someone on a personal level, confine it perhaps to email. This is not a private battleground.
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Post by irac on Feb 9, 2005 10:33:50 GMT 1
He just played, was pleasant and kept his polictical views to himself. It's only sport. Remember that just a few years ago it was almost unthinkable for a Catholic to go play with Rangers in Glasgow, just 2 years ago there were more Protestants in the Celtic line-up thand for Rangers!
I think we have been through it for hundreds of years and now idiots who decide they want to show allegiance to whatever band of cuththroats is just ignored. Plus he is a funny guy, at least to look at, he's massively overweight yet a World Champ at his sport, the dream of all Irish men! ;D
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Post by Culchie on Feb 9, 2005 11:43:26 GMT 1
In fact, at the moment he is one of the most popular figures on TV.
He is taking part in Celebrity Fit Club, he weighed over 30 stone, as seems like a really nice bloke.
As Irac said, at this stage, 99% of Irish people get on hunky dory, doesn't matter one iota whether they are Protestant, Catholic, Dublin, Belfast. We have a healthy 'rivalry' with our neighbours with the islanders across from us in the UK, but it is friendly at this stage. That releationship has changed enormously over the last 10-15 years, no longer are we 'thick paddies' and no longer are they 'Brits' .... we've all moved on, it only took 800 years but we did.
The only people that have a problem with that are people who have vested interests and use secretarism and religious bias as a smoke screen to use as an excuse, whilst they are peddling drugs, enforcing protection rackets and smuggling fuel and bootleg CDs and DVDs across the border. It is in these peoples interests, and nobody elses, that 'hostilities' remain.
Sure the rivalry comes to the fore when Celtic play Rangers, but is is only for 90 mins every few months, and recently those 90 minutes have been very enjoyable !
And finally just to prove the points that things are changing, Celtic and Rangers share the same sponsor !
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Post by irac on Feb 9, 2005 15:19:36 GMT 1
Well said on all counts, Culchie, it's now up to us to integrate all our new arrivals (ex Nigeria, Latvia etc), I hope that won't tkae 800years though, but we're changing and developing as a people!
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Post by Ribaric on Mar 17, 2005 0:13:19 GMT 1
I was out with some mates in London last week, six of us in a pub and found, by accident during discussion, that we all had Irish in us from one or more forebears during the 20th century. Randy load of buggers the Irish! I reckon we're more family than I'd thought.
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Post by irac on Mar 17, 2005 2:29:25 GMT 1
Don't you realise Ribaric, we're like bacteria, we get everywhere, I know I've read it before, and I can't remember the exact figure, but there's some phenomenally high number of people with Irish blood, high tens of millions minimum. Like I said, bacteria ;D
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Post by Finellach on Mar 19, 2005 5:06:03 GMT 1
draza mihajlovic was not a fasist or cetnick etc... he was a democrat. LOL! If he was a democrat I am the next Pope... ;D The man was a roylist. He supported the so much royalist-dictato regime of Serbian Karadjordjevic family. Their ideology was closest with Fascism with whom they collaborated against Partisans on several occassions. Chetniks slaughtered thousands of Muslim and Croatian civilians in Bosnia and Croatia. He was decorated by Americans because his Chetniks saved US paratroopers from Nazis but later when they realised they collaborated with the Nazis(operation to eliminated Tito) they severed all connections with them and started supporting Partisans.
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Post by irac on Mar 19, 2005 8:07:32 GMT 1
Tito was no angel when it came to slaughtering innocents and "threats" home and abroad. But hey, it's 50 years on from the war, maybe it's time to start realising that we can learn a little from the mistakes and ideologies of the past, oh wait, it's cyclical right?
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Post by barba Jere on Mar 19, 2005 9:06:32 GMT 1
Don't you realise Ribaric, we're like bacteria, we get everywhere, I know I've read it before, and I can't remember the exact figure, but there's some phenomenally high number of people with Irish blood, high tens of millions minimum. Like I said, bacteria ;D know some Irish. Most of them huge families. 8 to 10 brothers and sisters. No wonder u guys r all over the place. Just like the Albanians ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by irac on Mar 19, 2005 9:24:46 GMT 1
hey Barba, what can we say, the false claim is that the Italians are the great lovers, but as we all know the men dress more fashionably than the women, take more care of themselves and are more in line with the Greeks ( if you know what I mean in the male oily wrestling stakes ;D ) So it's left to we few Irish to go forth and multiply and attempt to normalise the place ;D The normal ridiculous polls in Cosmo et al place Irish men and women at the top of the lover/partner league, as my sister says, it must be an Irish editor pushing for greater sales and outrage among the feeble french and oily Italians ;D Or maybe it's that we're still so attached to our mothers that we do everything to please women, from cleaning, cooking, raising the kids haha
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Post by Finellach on Mar 19, 2005 20:38:41 GMT 1
Tito was no angel when it came to slaughtering innocents and "threats" home and abroad. But hey, it's 50 years on from the war, maybe it's time to start realising that we can learn a little from the mistakes and ideologies of the past, oh wait, it's cyclical right? Actually if you look at it no one who waged war in ex-Yugoslavia in WW2 was an angel. Yugoslavia was experiencing a very nasty civil war during WW2 with Ustasha and Chetniks fighting against each other and against Partisans while they sometimes collaborated with each others and with Nazis(Germans) and Fascists(Italians). Then there were the Italian Black Shirts who were autochtonous Italians. Then you had Hungarians, Soviets, Partisans, sometimes Brits and Americans.....it was a d**n mess.....you didn't knew who's killing whom...
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Post by irac on Mar 19, 2005 20:42:23 GMT 1
perfectly put Finellach
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Post by Myth buster on Mar 22, 2005 15:37:19 GMT 1
LOL! If he was a democrat I am the next Pope... ;D The man was a roylist. He supported the so much royalist-dictato regime of Serbian Karadjordjevic family. Their ideology was closest with Fascism with whom they collaborated against Partisans on several occassions. Chetniks slaughtered thousands of Muslim and Croatian civilians in Bosnia and Croatia. He was decorated by Americans because his Chetniks saved US paratroopers from Nazis but later when they realised they collaborated with the Nazis(operation to eliminated Tito) they severed all connections with them and started supporting Partisans. To "Pope" Finellach, Here is what President Truman had to say about Draza when awarding him the highest combat award our nation can bestow on a foreign national: "LEGION OF MERIT - CHIEF COMMANDER: General Dragoljub Mihailovich distinguished himself in an outstanding manner as Commander-in-Chief of the Yugoslavian Army Forces and later as Minister of War by Organizing and leading important resistance forces against the enemy which occupied Yugoslavia, from December 1941 to December 1944. Through the undaunted efforts of his troops, many United States airmen were rescued and returned safely to friendly control. General Mihailovich and his forces, although lacking adequate supplies, and fighting under extreme hardships, contributed materially to the Allied cause, and were instrumental in obtaining a final Allied victory. March 29, 1948. Harry S. Truman." Note the date, 1948. This was long after he was executed so your claim "later when they realised they collaborated with the Nazis(operation to eliminated Tito) they severed all connections" is clearly untrue. If his ideology was so Fascist, why didn't he simply join with the Nazis and create a puppet state instead of fighting against them? You later defend Tito by claiming atrocities were commited by all sides but continue bashing Draza, what's up with that?
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Post by EMIZ on Mar 22, 2005 15:57:42 GMT 1
To Myth buster; your words mean nothing as you don't use your real name, why do so many people change their names for each post. I would guess that you are star but who knows.
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