Post by croam on Mar 14, 2005 3:36:12 GMT 1
STAR, I agree that "The Minister and the Massacres" is an important book for anyone interested in WWII, and what went on in YU.
It is interesting to note that this book has all but been snuffed out. Its very hard to find, it is out of print and LEO is a refugee in Canada now. The British govt. sued him and chased him out of the country.
It is also true that alot of documents and records that survived the devastation of war are still sealed. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but that smells like a coverup to me.****I think its important from a historical standpoint but irrelevant to the problems in Croatia right now. ***Nationalism, although present, isn't any worse than in the US or France or Italy.
People don't realize that most people hate "foreigners". Even foreigners from their own country. I can attest to that being true in much of the US except for big cities such as NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, and a few others. Everywhere else you have some backwards mofo's mixed in with a weird homogonized culture. If i moved ten miles from my house i would probably be viewed with suspicion from my neighbors.
This is true in Croatia as well, and therefore I speculate in most of the world. As a tourist I'm sure people are nice if their taking your money but living somewhere is different. If you move from Makarska to Dubrovnik or Split or Zagreb(or any combo) they are going to look at you as a stranac at first. I know a guy in Dubrovnik who's lived there five or six years, runs a business in his grandmothers house and because he's from Zagreb, he's "mali iz zagreba". They're just pissed off because he has a for sale sign on his building that says FOR SALE 900,000 EUROS. This is a native Croat. I don't think this is "CROATIAN"...it think its ECONOMICS.
I'm beginning to realize that this is humanity everywhere...a general distrust of others that are different in any way. It also depends alot on the local population's socioeconomic situation, and I'm not going to get into the whole linguistic aspect, and how that affects one's reality. Maybe in another post.
Anyway, the point of the post is that yeah there are problems in Croatia but there are things there that are unique as well. Depends on what you want out of life. The Government sucks for sure...the infrastructure leaves alot to be desired, but I believe that means that Croatia only has one way to go, and ten years from now people are going to be dying to come to Croatia. (pun intended). I wish Croatia's Economy was on fire so I could move there and live and make a living, but its not quite there. That doesn't mean that I love it there any less, or the people. I think Croatia has alot of potential and the people need to stand up to the communists(they come to you like wolves in sheeps clothing...hint hint) that are still in power over there and embrace the present and truly strive to be better every day. Actually, thats something people everywhere should do.
zivjeli ;D
It is interesting to note that this book has all but been snuffed out. Its very hard to find, it is out of print and LEO is a refugee in Canada now. The British govt. sued him and chased him out of the country.
It is also true that alot of documents and records that survived the devastation of war are still sealed. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but that smells like a coverup to me.****I think its important from a historical standpoint but irrelevant to the problems in Croatia right now. ***Nationalism, although present, isn't any worse than in the US or France or Italy.
People don't realize that most people hate "foreigners". Even foreigners from their own country. I can attest to that being true in much of the US except for big cities such as NYC, SF, LA, Chicago, and a few others. Everywhere else you have some backwards mofo's mixed in with a weird homogonized culture. If i moved ten miles from my house i would probably be viewed with suspicion from my neighbors.
This is true in Croatia as well, and therefore I speculate in most of the world. As a tourist I'm sure people are nice if their taking your money but living somewhere is different. If you move from Makarska to Dubrovnik or Split or Zagreb(or any combo) they are going to look at you as a stranac at first. I know a guy in Dubrovnik who's lived there five or six years, runs a business in his grandmothers house and because he's from Zagreb, he's "mali iz zagreba". They're just pissed off because he has a for sale sign on his building that says FOR SALE 900,000 EUROS. This is a native Croat. I don't think this is "CROATIAN"...it think its ECONOMICS.
I'm beginning to realize that this is humanity everywhere...a general distrust of others that are different in any way. It also depends alot on the local population's socioeconomic situation, and I'm not going to get into the whole linguistic aspect, and how that affects one's reality. Maybe in another post.
Anyway, the point of the post is that yeah there are problems in Croatia but there are things there that are unique as well. Depends on what you want out of life. The Government sucks for sure...the infrastructure leaves alot to be desired, but I believe that means that Croatia only has one way to go, and ten years from now people are going to be dying to come to Croatia. (pun intended). I wish Croatia's Economy was on fire so I could move there and live and make a living, but its not quite there. That doesn't mean that I love it there any less, or the people. I think Croatia has alot of potential and the people need to stand up to the communists(they come to you like wolves in sheeps clothing...hint hint) that are still in power over there and embrace the present and truly strive to be better every day. Actually, thats something people everywhere should do.
zivjeli ;D