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Post by jackal on Jul 9, 2005 16:56:46 GMT 1
no, not the same thing, believed there was an IRA sniper....not clear...I was talking about taking civilians out into a field and machine gunning the lot of them
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Post by dundomaroje on Jul 9, 2005 16:58:22 GMT 1
no, not the same thing, believed there was an IRA sniper....not clear...I was talking about taking civilians out into a field and machine gunning the lot of them In wich town was it when Brits entered the stadium and gunned down civilians. BTW you invented concetration camps.
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Post by jackal on Jul 9, 2005 17:00:34 GMT 1
lost me there! and again I was talking about brits killing croats directly.....no answer is there?
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Post by dundomaroje on Jul 9, 2005 17:02:56 GMT 1
lost me there! and again I was talking about brits killing croats directly.....no answer is there? Where did Croats killed Brits??? And this about the stadium was somewere in Irelad. Cocetration camps- South Africa.
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Post by islander on Jul 9, 2005 21:29:30 GMT 1
Concentration camps, try the reservations for native Americans, or Spanish camps in Cuba (1896), and remember, concentration is vastly different from extermination - the camps in Germany in WW11 were a different animal altogether
Gunning down civilians in Ireland in a football stadium?? you'll need more info than this to present a case.
Comparing a politician from the Nazi party, Himmler, to a Field Marshal in the Army - don't be so daft, Monty led an army in war, Himmler was in charge of the secret police, Monty and Rommel, they can be compared, but Himmler, no
Brits that go to Croatia, generally, love it. Most Croats are good, kind people, as are people wherever you go, but as to an opinion on Croatia, no, Croatia is like Majorca, just another destination with sunshine.
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Post by valiant on Jul 9, 2005 22:39:08 GMT 1
good posting. im croatian and i think brits are generally speaking ok ..nowadays , they are tolerant towrds other cultures . but they give the impression of being anti croat and pro serb and brits probably ...most of them ...only like croatia because of the coast .
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Post by islander on Jul 9, 2005 22:54:38 GMT 1
The Croats I meet are also generally tolerant. when people on this this board refer to Brits, they are generally referring to the government, Brits themselves have no bias against the Croats IMO. Many now live, work are married to Croats and have learnt, and sorry to say, but Croatia has not loomed large in history in this part of Europe, other than in the last 15 years, other than as a holiday destination. These things always appear different on the inside, there are I'm sure examples in the UK, where we believe an opinion is inferred against us by another nationality, when in reality, it is of no consequence
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Post by alsdoubles on Jul 9, 2005 22:56:13 GMT 1
Brits are the . Bomb attacks, nemo problemo. Shrug it off. Handle it...Move on. Iraq, again, nema problemo...handle it, sort it, stick with it...move on. Next! Croats can do that. I haven't read the thread, not interested. Just the title. Brits. Tony Blair...Best PM in my lifetime. Which country would not wish for a Tony BLair. Brits are not okay. Brits are the full trip. They have the history...The world conquest...Now the Chinese.........Phew.....
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Post by dundomaroje on Jul 10, 2005 2:35:52 GMT 1
Comparing a politician from the Nazi party, Himmler, to a Field Marshal in the Army - don't be so daft, Monty led an army in war, Himmler was in charge of the secret police, Monty and Rommel, they can be compared, but Himmler, no I know he can't be compared. But what would you do if it was? You would say YES THEY'RE THE SAME? Gen. Mladic and Gen. Gotovina are compared. Same thing like comparing Himmler and Monty.
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Post by jackal on Jul 10, 2005 7:50:48 GMT 1
OK everybody now this is what I'm saying........I go to Croatia and to some Croats I'm the devil and they do not like me and look straight through me and hold me responsible for spewing forth the British Empire upon the world and causing untold wars, even though I personally have never picked up a rifle in my life or even that I do not like killing insects (except for flies and mosquito's which I hate). Nor do I even vote as in Britain all the parties are the same unless your a grade A idiot and you think that there is a difference.
AND then I go to the local croatian graveyard and I see all the people who've had their lives cut short in wars, IN NO WAY EVEN REMOTELY STARTED BY BRITAIN and I think what the hell is this all about. What have I done?
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Post by Ribaric on Jul 10, 2005 15:21:04 GMT 1
Anyone who "hates" another nation is making a huge and unjustifiable collective statement about them, after all, an intelligent person cannot have a rationale for hating any individual who is not known to him/her. If people don't like me becasue I'm Brit, or male, white, bald, devilishly handsome, rich, poor etc etc - then it's a problem they have to deal with. If they don't know me, how can they have an opinion about me? If this question is "Do Croats hate Brits IN GENERAL" then I'd like to know what it is that Brits generally (or all) do or say which causes this hatred.
Of course, you can substitute any collective group you want. In general, you can say that you hate Americans, Muslims, dogs, Volkswagens, stars, mountains......Whichever way you look at it, any answer is going to be worthless.
Just thought I'd kill off another thread.
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Post by jackal on Jul 10, 2005 15:45:30 GMT 1
....it continues...because yes I can psychologically distance myself from the person with ill feelings towards me, but that person still exists and is an influence on my world and has to be dealt with, at some point. Of course I'm not saying all Croats hate Brits, but.....there is something there unless its my imagination, or let me put it another way....why don't Croats love Brits?
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Post by mazzystar on Jul 10, 2005 19:05:52 GMT 1
I don't think they hate anyone per se, just that they prefer some over others. I remember when I was there a few years ago and we bought a room with an old lady on Hvar. She was nice enough to us but she kept lamenting about how an Austrian couple used to rent those rooms every summer but they never came back after the war. She said they were nice and quiet and respectful. She said we were too but that these other tourists were wild, thieving, obnoxious and above all, cheap. Especially those from Eastern Europe. Poles and Czechs got specific mentions. Anyways, I got the distinct impression that while she did appreciate our business, she still would prefer her elderly Austrian couple for less money than the younger party animals from elsewhere. Understandable I guess.
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Post by midge on Jul 10, 2005 19:09:46 GMT 1
I love Brits . I suppose the majority of Croats who don't like Brits are just ignorant and think that the UK doesn't want Croatia in the EU, or something like that. But I wouldn't say the hatred is widespread. It's not even hatred, just a slight dislike. You are still nowhere close to Serbs
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Post by croatianserbabroad on Jul 10, 2005 23:38:01 GMT 1
Reading peoples opinions in this thread is very interesting. The one thing that is very transparent is that Croatian people think far more about the British than the British do about Croatians.
As someone living in the UK, every British person who i know who visited Croatia has only ever said nice things - not just about the coast but also the people - friendly, kind, generous are the most common things i hear. These are the opinions that are formed by the British, aside from people that visit Croatia very few people will know anything about the country and as such will find it difficult to form an opinion, when i mention to people i am from Croatia I only hear genuinely nice things.
Croatia must rid itself of this victim culture, why does there always have to be an enemy?. It is also very hipocritical to say that Croats hate the British, i see lots of Croatian Trucks moving goods in the UK, the British pound is very welcome in Croatia in the form of visiting tourists - i am sure that Britain is poitively contributing to the Croatian economy.
Whilst in Dubrovnik last year i asked a tour rep who were the best and worst tourists, she loved the Italians and did actually say the British were the worst because they wouldnt stop complaining.
The British are very different to Croatians - less passionate, less emotional, more introvert - i know this is stereotyping but they are good people in the main, as are Croatians, people should not be hostile to different peoples and cultures - they should be embraced.
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