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Post by Barba Jere on Feb 26, 2005 18:05:21 GMT 1
40 out of 80 MPs of so called Republic of Srpska Krajna formed a Government in exile.
I guess they are dreaming to form that fantom state again with Knin as capital.
here is news in Croatian
U beogradskom Domu sindikata u subotu je održana "obnoviteljska sjednica" Skupštine "Republike Srpske Krajine", na kojoj je sastavljena "vlada RSK u progonstvu", a za njezina predsjednika je izabran Milorad Buha iz Belog Manastira, te šest ministara bez ovlasti, čija imena nisu priopćena.
"Srbi iz 'Republike Srpske Krajine' nikada neće prihvatiti etničko čišćenje kao metodu rješavanja političkog pitanja, u ovom slučaju srpskog pitanja u Krajini", kaže se u priopćenju podijeljenom novinarima nakon skupa zatvorenog za javnost.
Prije početka sjednice predsjednik nekadašnje Skupštine "Republike Srpske Krajine" Rajko Ležajić rekao je novinarima da je riječ o "prvom izvanrednom zasjedanju u progonstvu", na koje su pozvani zastupnici koji su izabrani na "redovitim parlamentarnim izborima" godine 1993. Od tadašnja 82 zastupnika skupu se, inače, odazvalo njih 40-ak.
Na novinarsko pitanje jesu li organizatori "obnoviteljske sjednice" kontaktirali s predstavnicima srpske manjine u Hrvatskoj Ležajić je odgovorio: "Ne, s njima nismo u vezi. Oni su predstavnici srpske manjine, a mi smo predstavnici srpskog naroda." Dodao je da su Srbi u Hrvatskoj do godine 1990. bili konstitutivan narod.
Na "obnoviteljskoj sjednici" prihvaćena je i rezolucija u kojoj se, među ostalim, ističe da "okupacija nije pravno, već privremeno stanje", te se "izražava uvjerenje da se srpsko nacionalno pitanje i opstanak Srba može ostvariti samo prekidom takve okupacije i osiguranjem sigurnosti i slobodnog odlučivanja svih koji su do okupacije 'RSK' živjeli na tom teritoriju".
"Također, smatramo da Hrvatska ne može i ne smije postati sastavni dio europskih integracija, a da pritom bude stvorena etničkim čišćenjem nad srpskim narodom. Srbi nikad, pa ni danas ne traže ono što im ne pripada, već samo pravo na samoopredjeljenje, pravo koje imaju svi narodi Europe i svijeta", kaže se u tekstu rezolucije.
Nitko od srbijanskih dužnosnika još nije službeno reagirao na sastavljanje "vlade RSK u progonstvu".
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Post by Marie on Feb 26, 2005 19:14:54 GMT 1
This is interesting, please translate into English (at least a short version).
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Post by irac on Feb 26, 2005 21:33:36 GMT 1
Interesting, but just so you know, Knin is in the Republic of Croatia Barba Jere, and those of orthodox faith who live here are pretty happy of that too! Don't you thnk they'd rather he capital somehwere in Western Bosnia where they have an actual majority?
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Post by Barba Jere on Feb 26, 2005 21:33:51 GMT 1
In Belgrades house of union today Saturday a meeting of the council of Republic Serbian Krajina was held where the government of RSK in exile was formed.The president is Milorad Buha from Beli Manastir as well as 6 ministers without portfolio.
Serbs from RSK will never accept ethnic cleansing as a method of solving the political issues in this case issue of Serbs in Krajina said the statement to the journalist after the meeting that was closed for the public.
Before the meeting begun president of ex council of RSK Rajko Lezajic stated that this is first extraordinary meeting in exile and that mebers of council that were “officially voted in 1993” were invited and 40 out of 83 answered to the call.
They said that occupation of “RSK”” is not legal but temporary status and that they are expressing convition that Serbian national issue and surviving of Serbs can be achieved only by stopping of occupation and securing security and free decisions of all those who lived in “ RSK” before it was occupied.
We also think that Croatia can not and should not become part of EU integrations since it is made on ethnic clensing of Serbian nation. Serbs never ask for something that doesn’t belong to them but are asking for the right of self-determination,the right that all nations in EU and the world have.
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Post by irac on Feb 26, 2005 21:41:12 GMT 1
Problem is these guys know Serbia or Bosnia are at least 10 years behind Croatia in the pecking order, and so they want to get back to their property in whatever way possible, even if it means, horror of horrors, taking out Croatian citizenship, the way others of Orthodox of non-Catholic faith have done.
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Post by Barba Jere on Feb 26, 2005 21:42:15 GMT 1
Irac of course I know.
Do you think it is a coinciidance that this is happening right now? when Croatia is under huge pressure of EU because Gotovina and EU accession.
Serbs are lobbing against Croatia accession talks for last few months. Even their president openlz stated that Croatia should wait for Serbia.
Im afraid that have succeded to presuade some governments in to it. Dont let me say which ones.
This is going to cause grow of Nationalistic feeling and yet another reason for EU to criticise Croatia and postpone EU succession.
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Post by irac on Feb 26, 2005 21:50:23 GMT 1
Simple thing is never easy, and the gotovina issue is smokescreen and buying Zagreb time, they know they haven't got their house in order, from sorting out the problems of those who were affected or dispossessed by the war, and of the amount of dodgy dealers using Croatian passports dealt out in large numbers from Zagreb and Croatian embassies around the place. last year, 2004, alone in Ireland the Croatian embassy was called out to deal with no less than 47 deportations, not people working illegally, but Bosnian or Serbs with Cro passports who had been up to their necks in illegal enterprise here. One Tuesday morning the Visa officer from the embassy was called out to Dublin airport to find that a Croatian citizen was in fact a drug smuggler from Mostar who was running from an arrest warrant in Fracne (he arrived on a Ryanair flight). His passport was fuly legal, but it's incidents like these that are scaring the pants off many EU nations.
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Post by Old Guest on Feb 26, 2005 21:51:40 GMT 1
Irac of course I know. Do you think it is a coinciidance that this is happening right now? when Croatia is under huge pressure of EU because Gotovina and EU accession. Serbs are lobbing against Croatia accession talks for last few months. Even their president openlz stated that Croatia should wait for Serbia. Im afraid that have succeded to presuade some governments in to it. Dont let me say which ones. This is going to cause grow of Nationalistic feeling and yet another reason for EU to criticise Croatia and postpone EU succession. I wouldn't go this far ... This is more "joke from hell", and it can only put Serb's in worse position (surprise, surprise). And if we come that low, so even Serbia can influence start of our negotiations with EU ... well, let's rather not even believe in such possibilite for now.
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Post by Barba Jere on Feb 26, 2005 21:53:51 GMT 1
Problem is these guys know Serbia or Bosnia are at least 10 years behind Croatia in the pecking order, and so they want to get back to their property in whatever way possible, even if it means, horror of horrors, taking out Croatian citizenship, the way others of Orthodox of non-Catholic faith have done. Some of the participants allready have Cro citisenship. it was just now on TV They want a republic just as they wanted in 91. Im telling you some of the EU governments(again i dont want to mention which but im sure you know) want to see all of the ex YU states enter together to EU. Look at this news and tell me its not true. EPC says Macedonia can join EU in 2009 Bratislava, 12:17 The Brussels-based Center for European Policy hinted at the possibility for Macedonia to become a member of the European Union in 2009. "Macedonia has no problems related to co-operation with The Hague Tribunal, therefore, the country is likely to join the European Union along with Croatia," said Cameron Freizer, Director of European Policy Center (EPC). In an interview with Slovakian newspaper SME, EPC director stressed that if accession talks are completed in due time and if Macedonia does its homework, the country could join EU in 2009. He reckons that Macedonia can outpace Croatia despite the severe economic downturn that the country is undergoing. "Although Macedonia faces a more difficult economic situation comparing with Croatia, a number of analysts in Brussels reckon that Macedonia could outrun Croatia given Zagreb's reluctance to co-operate with the war crimes tribunal in The Hague," Freizer said, adding that Macedonia needs to forge ahead with a comprehensive reform agenda. "Macedonia made a positive signal to foreign investors when it engaged the former German minister of finances Theodor Waigel to promote the country throughout the world. However, Croatia has also come up with a heavy artillery when it named the former Austrian commissioner Franz Fischler as a chief advisor in accession negotiations with EU," SME newspaper says. /end/
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Post by Barba Jere on Feb 26, 2005 21:58:11 GMT 1
Simple thing is never easy, and the gotovina issue is smokescreen and buying Zagreb time, they know they haven't got their house in order, from sorting out the problems of those who were affected or dispossessed by the war, and of the amount of dodgy dealers using Croatian passports dealt out in large numbers from Zagreb and Croatian embassies around the place. last year, 2004, alone in Ireland the Croatian embassy was called out to deal with no less than 47 deportations, not people working illegally, but Bosnian or Serbs with Cro passports who had been up to their necks in illegal enterprise here. One Tuesday morning the Visa officer from the embassy was called out to Dublin airport to find that a Croatian citizen was in fact a drug smuggler from Mostar who was running from an arrest warrant in Fracne (he arrived on a Ryanair flight). His passport was fuly legal, but it's incidents like these that are scaring the pants off many EU nations. Ma please dont b silly. Then Bulgarian or Rumanian EU accession would make total panic. Dont even try to compare Cro mafia with Rumanians or Bulgarians who are together over 20 milion and notorious. and guess what they are entering EU in 2 years for sure.
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Post by irac on Feb 26, 2005 22:03:12 GMT 1
I'm in total agrement with you when the driving forces behind the EU are looking for another quick ten body addition (Cro, Bos, Serb, Maced, Bulg, Rom to name but 6), but the sticking point is that too many left wing governments and extreme right wing (that excludes UK int he first and includes the Irish in the second) are not too happy that the cmpetition for business has been limited to Germans, Austrians and Italians in the region. The BBC have been doing little pieces on how wonderfully good Macedonia is becoming, and of course Bulgaria is "now on track", but if they do, those ones I mentioned (left and extreme right) will want a larger piece of the pie. Most importantly they want to drag the "west balkans" region in en masse so that they have a bulwark against the Turks and east! but if they're serious, and they want Bosnia and Serbia in, and Macedonia (which the last time I was there was a mess), then they have to let in Moldova and the Ukraine, the latter which has a better set up than Bosnia by far!
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Post by irac on Feb 26, 2005 22:06:46 GMT 1
We have the Romanians and Croats in full swing in Ireland, but ROmania at least is making strides forward, as for Bulgaria..............I have to call it the pits of EUrope, from my own limited experiences. But the Croatians have the most notorious criminal set ups, for a longer time, in Europe, witness events in German football, or in people smuggling (especially sex slaves), 15 of the 18 ringleaders of the group who were kidnapping and exporting girls and women as you as 12 from former Soviet Union and Syria were........Croatian (2 from Split!)
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Post by Barba Jere on Feb 26, 2005 22:08:33 GMT 1
I wouldn't go this far ... This is more "joke from hell", and it can only put Serb's in worse position (surprise, surprise). And if we come that low, so even Serbia can influence start of our negotiations with EU ... well, let's rather not even believe in such possibilite for now. you are very naive Old Guest if you underestimate Serbs and thair diplomacy and power of lobbying especially in London.You must be Hlebinac. ;D Try to read about Draskovics and Tadicis actions. Didi you hear the statement he said durin Mesics Inaguration in Zagreb that Croatia should wait for Serbia. and please explane why did Serbs waited for 10 years to form this government in exile? Of course now everyone on this forum specially Croatofob EMIZ will say im a paranoic nationalist or something simmilar. This is how war stared first time and it was granades falling on my head....
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Post by irac on Feb 26, 2005 22:12:01 GMT 1
I think the country is in a stronger position, and again Barba, remember that Knin is in Croatia, and those who live here are interested in, wait for it, Croatia! They cry for Hajduk, they drive around the streets blaring their horns when Croatia win at something (Janica included), there's isn't, is it the 5th brigade? or inner rebels), this time around. People need peace for prosperity.
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Post by Old Guest on Feb 26, 2005 22:31:36 GMT 1
you are very naive Old Guest if you underestimate Serbs and thair diplomacy and power of lobbying especially in London.You must be Hlebinac. ;D Try to read about Draskovics and Tadicis actions. Didi you hear the statement he said durin Mesics Inaguration in Zagreb that Croatia should wait for Serbia. and please explane why did Serbs waited for 10 years to form this government in exile? Of course now everyone on this forum specially Croatofob EMIZ will say im a paranoic nationalist or something simmilar. This is how war stared first time and it was granades falling on my head.... Nobody said you are paranoid ... But I don't think UK need Serbian diplomacy to stand against Croatia. Simply it stands and standed against Croatia since Croatia declared independence. Draskovic is nationalistic idiot and Tadic is closely following ... They speak nonsensens for their internal political use. They waited for 10 years because since now we never showed so weak and idiotic on every political level as we did lattely. Of course they hate idea of Croatia exsisting, but considering new war - I don't see anybody around beeing able or willing to fight instead of them. And by the way - thanks for insults
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